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PL: Arsenal v Leicester City | Sunday October 25 | KO: 19:15 GMT | Sky Sports Box Office (£14.95)

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by American_Gooner, Oct 22, 2020.

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Match Prediction

Poll closed Oct 25, 2020.
  1. Arsenal Win

    76.2%
  2. Draw

    19.0%
  3. Leicester Win

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  1. Multipass

    Multipass Active Member

    Say what you want about douzi, but when he had space in front of him with the ball he ran into it with some purpose. I expected to see partey do that today but they crowded him out and the players given the space (Luiz, Xhaka, ceballos) walked up the pitch at snails pace.
     
  2. Red London

    Red London Anti-Simp Culture Trusted

    This crap has been annoying me since even the end of the Wenger era and has continued through Emery to now. I have never got my head around why our defenders pass so slowly.

    Even if you forget progressive passes and we are talking about a sideways pass to a guy in space, it is so mind numbingly slow when it doesn’t need to be. Not only does it give the other team more precious seconds to hold their shape and communicate, it also sends a bad vibe/message through to the team. It’s infectious this slow passing and I absolutely hate it.

    In my opinion we have been an unattractive team to watch since we started doing it under Wenger. It’s terrible. A player is literally free there just pass to him with some ****ing urgency, stop casually jogging with the ball or taking so long to put your foot through the ball.
     
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  3. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    This says quite a lot. Most would say we’re a better squad than what we’re seeing there yet today (and this season) has been embarrassing.
     
  4. Kysus

    Kysus Well-Known Member

    Under Wenger we only struggled to create when the opposition was (much)superior in individual quality.

    The balance is clearly off right now. While under Wenger you could argue that there was not enough organisation right now we are way too far at the other end of the spectrum.
    It's like playing with the handbrake on.

    Wenger with our current players?At the least, REALLY fun to watch.
     
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  5. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    You have a short memory or you choose to only remember the good times. I can remember so many games against inferior opposition where we struggled to create chances and we kept blaming the lack of movement in our forwards. We had creative players in midfield at the time.
     
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  6. Red London

    Red London Anti-Simp Culture Trusted

    Playing with so much width actually hampers us. We don’t have a striker who can successfully drop into the Firmino false 9 role and connect play, and we don’t play with a number 10 or a midfielder who likes to have possession in the hole.

    There is never any threat from the middle. The opposition knows to double up on our wings and then we will just ping hard balls into Laca which will bounce off him. I was hoping that the arrival of Partey and a movement to 433 would allow us to build up through the middle and provide our wingers with more space but we didn’t really see it today. Our midfielders didn’t play close together it was all so stretched in there. Ceballos was essentially playing right midfield at times and Xhaka was playing left back. There was no interplay between them and I think that’s because they are all the sitting types; it isn’t a dynamic set of midfielders.
     
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  7. Kysus

    Kysus Well-Known Member

    Was never bored* under Wenger, and I haven't missed a game since 2006.
    Was really bored in the 2nd half today and vs Rapid too.

    Wenger has torn teams apart with Bendter and Eboue in the attacking front 3 FFS.

    (*bored is not quite the right word as there is obviously excitment in tight games)
     
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  8. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    The difference between emery first season against Leicester and Arteta first that Leicester didn't spend all game defending even when they were 1 up now that not excuse but if Leicester played offensive against us today they'll get absolutely destroyed they did against city and succeeded and today too it on us to break them down and we failed
     
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  9. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Football have changed with Wenger in final seasons yes we were amazing at home but we'll still very predictable teams find it easy to stop us.
     
  10. Red London

    Red London Anti-Simp Culture Trusted

    I was shouting at the ****ing TV about this. I don’t know if you guys had the same broadcasters and same replays being shown but all it was showing was from the angle of the right wing. It kept showing this stupid angle which made it look worse than it is because of your field of vision from the angle. Even despite that; it was clear that Xhaka was not blocking his vision.

    I don’t know if they get all angles in Stockley park but if they do it’s even worse, how can you be so dumb.
     
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  11. Kysus

    Kysus Well-Known Member

    We scored a ****load of goals even in Wenger's last season(74 Goals)
     
  12. Relic

    Relic Well-Known Member

    @Red London They had the angles, sounds like they didn't bother looking.

     
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  13. Polar Bear

    Polar Bear Well-Known Member

    I don't want to get into any debates about Özil, its so toxic, and his thread is locked. But I really think the last 20 minutes would be nice to see him come on, just to see if he can give a sneaky through-ball out of nothing and open something up, (which he does have in his locker)
     
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  14. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    That’s actually not Mustafi’s fault.

    We got done by good old pace. Vardy is Gabriel’s man, Under is Xhaka’s.

    Under does Xhaka for pace, it happens. Gabriel comes across and Mustafi is simply not fast enough. Under and Vardy are both very, very fast.

    It was just a lightning counter attack with a quality pass from Tielemans and a quality ball from Under. Leno was actually preparing to rush Under so perhaps Gabriel could have covered Vardy but that could have easily led to a goal too.
     
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  15. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Bit much there

    Auba’s outscored Vardy since both have been in the league, and scored against pretty much every top defender he’s faced.

    He’s also done it in the Champions League where Vardy flopped.
     
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  16. squallman

    squallman Still Pining for Wenger

    When? If anything we just couldn't find a way to put the ball in the back of the net in those games.

    I'd say up until 2015/2016 or so, Wenger's teams created chances for fun. It's just that we had Henry to finish them off at first, then Judas when he wasn't in the trainer's room and finally Giroud missed half of his.

    Then our creativity fell off of a cliff and we started to rely on the forwards to create and score goals on their own. Now here we are.

    The one thing I will say about Wenger is that we were never boring, up until the last year or so of his reign.
     
  17. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    For starters, you can pick any away game against Stoke. I’m not going to go over every single game, but I’m telling you, we had creative midfields and often created next to nothing against low blocks. There is no one answer fits all. I’m not saying creative midfielders (which we don’t have) won’t help, but getting better forwards is even more fundamental.
     
  18. krengon

    krengon One Arsene Wenger Trusted

    Yeah I don't see what Mustafi did wrong there either. His positioning is fine initially and there's no way he had a chance of catching up to Vardy when Gabriel leaves him.
     
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  19. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Especially when one of them is a proven world class forward. About 18 months ago Pepe was coming off being the second best player in Ligue1 but forget about him.

    Auba has been world class for like half a decade and he’s had two shots in like 5 games. :lol:
     
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  20. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    Auba isn't world class...he's a quality striker don't get me wrong, but he has too many flaws to be considered world class.
     
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