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PL: Arsenal v Leicester City | Sunday October 25 | KO: 19:15 GMT | Sky Sports Box Office (£14.95)

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by American_Gooner, Oct 22, 2020.

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Poll closed Oct 25, 2020.
  1. Arsenal Win

    76.2%
  2. Draw

    19.0%
  3. Leicester Win

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  1. squallman

    squallman Still Pining for Wenger

    You're talking about individual one off games. At first, I thought you meant that there was a time in Wenger's reign where we started to not create chances apropos to a club of our size with the talent pool available to us for an entire season.
     
  2. Polar Bear

    Polar Bear Well-Known Member

    Its set in stone that Vardy scores against us, it happens every season and it does not matter what defenders are playing, he has played against lots of different Arsenal defenders, he always scores no matter what.

    I don't believe Mustafi did anything wrong.. it looked like Gabriel was closest to Vardy when Vardy peeled off him... I feel people are just always wanting to blame Mustafi. Vardy is a great striker, we just have to face it, he scores all different types of goals.
     
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  3. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Got Swerved By Gallas Trusted

    He’s a world class goal scorer though? Where was this energy for other strikers through the years?

    Didn’t hear people complain about Inzaghi or Michael Owen because they didn’t offer much beyond pure goal scoring.
     
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  4. Kysus

    Kysus Well-Known Member

    Stoke - Arsenal 1-4 (2017)
    Stoke - Arsenal 1-0(2017) We had 18 shots and 6 on target
    Arsenal - Stoke 3-0(2018) 24 shots, 11 on target
     
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  5. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    Those were the old "4-4-****ing-2" days, hard to compare eras, just what you do in your time...would be interesting to see how strikers like Inzaghi and Owen would do now...though Owen had a really good mix of pace and dribbling at his best so he might have maybe been an inverted winger these days...like I said, you can only be judged over your actual career...so it's difficult to compare certain players from that long ago.

    Auba can't move with the ball at his feet...how can he be world class when you consider some of the other forwards these days?
     
  6. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    Nice try. Those were when they got relegated trying to play attacking football.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26301137
     
  7. Kysus

    Kysus Well-Known Member

    one game = every single away game against stoke?
     
  8. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Got Swerved By Gallas Trusted

    Putting it all on formations is a cop out for me. You see teams still lining up in 4-4-2 without the ball and Sp*rs still play a variant of it with Kane and Son.

    The fact is we’ve moved him far away from the goal when he’s more of a sharp end striker. Unlike Sp*rs though there’s no support for him like Kane currently offers Son.
     
  9. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    Most away games against Stoke, not talking about their last season in the prem. I remember home games against the likes of Sunderland where we couldn’t create a thing too.
     
  10. Wrighty4eva

    Wrighty4eva Well-Known Member

    Of course it isn't.
     
  11. Kysus

    Kysus Well-Known Member

    I remember that game too which proves my point.
    Under Wenger stuff like that was unheard of and a huge exception so you can still remember it years later.

    We probably had more crazy comebacks(like turning a 2-0 away to Bolton with 10 men into a 2-3) than "struggling to create" games
     
  12. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    But my point is that it’s not about the manager it’s about personnel. We had Özil, Cazorla, Ramsey, Wilshere and Alexis in the same team yet struggled to create chances against Sunderland. Sure enough, those players will create chances most games, but those players were a lot better than what we have now. Do you think Wenger will be getting fluid attacking footballer from our current team? I doubt it. He finished 6th in his last season and he had better players in attack back then. I say this partly because I consider Pepe to be a flop, and we are missing someone like Ramsey.
     
  13. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Leicester we’re without Soyuncu, Ndidi and Vardy for most of the game too. Just like City who were missing 5 players or something.
     
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  14. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Didn’t you call me a troll for saying this? Now it’s ok for you label him not world class.
     
  15. zilfy

    zilfy Well-Known Member

    Saka- auba- pepe makes so much sense. Why has it taken this long? I bought the whole auba-cant-hold-the-ball-up concept therefore needs to be on the wing, but neither can Laca!

    Being an arsenal fan is more frustration than it's worth some days
     
  16. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    Arteta recently explained why he doesn’t play Auba in the middle. Respect the manager’s decision. You’re not all experts like him.
     
  17. Kysus

    Kysus Well-Known Member

    dude

    Bendter, Giroud, Chamakh, Yaya Sanogo were mainstays in our attack, Eboue, Benayoun, Joel Campbell, Vela, Gervinho on the wing.
    Frimpong, Denilson and Coquelin in CM.
    Djourou, Senderos, Silvestre, Squillaci and CO as CB
    Almunia in goal.
    And we battered teams.
    Wenger made some of those players look like world beaters.
    Barca came in for Song ffs :D
     
  18. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    Auba is world class in terms of him as a striker. Scored 20+ in the league for years in a row now and got 30+ before too. Its hard to find that.

    But yes in terms of footballing ability on the ball he is average. But in a high level sport like this you dont judge if someone is world class based off their overall game. Aubameyang is a specialty striker and he should be in the opponent penalty area being fed the ball by an attacking set up.

    We are using him like Neymar ffs, expecting him to do it all coming off the left wing. Fact is he isn't anything like a winger. He is a top class poacher with pace.
     
  19. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    @Kysus This is a pointless debate. Wenger's last year here was atrocious and depressing. It was his last season and some of his second last was where we really started to decline and play confused slow football. I date it back to when we brought in Xhaka. I am not blaming him but he just wasnt suited to Wenger like Cazorla who was playing a similar role for us beforehand.
     
  20. Wryer

    Wryer Well-Known Member

    These are the type of games we must win if we want to be any where near top 4, and to demonstrate real progress from the dark days of Emery. The home games vs. the Leicesters, Evertons, Wolves, Sp**s. No excuses.

    It pains me that we are down to this level. But we just have to win those.
     
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