PL: Arsenal vs Aston Villa | Sunday 8th November| 19:15 GMT| Illegal Streams

[14Henry]

Saw his presser and he said he takes full responsibility for it.

Yeah that's the easy thing to do but. Say oh it's my fault.

He was asked about Laca and Willian and their poor performances recently and again instead of "holding them accountable" like he said he would he said if they play poor its because we need to help them more.

Arteta has players playing in imaginary zones and boxes on the pitch. Players seem afraid to venture into another zone. It's like. Ok Saka you can run forward and back but you cant drift 5 yards inside or Elneny you have to be within 10 yards of Tierney to pass at all times.

While some of that is needed what it seems is that hes giving the players too much info too many restrictions and not enough freedom. Which will kill these players as it's boring to watch and very boring to play.

Also if he cant give the players his ideas without having to micromanage them on the sidelines its clear they arent learning or adapting. He literally never shuts up for 2 mins shouting in Spanish to everyone. Imagine being on the ball faced with an opponent and hearing him shouting your name telling you what to do. If you were going to pass left and hes telling you to pass right theres the lag time and by then you've lost the ball.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

Have to admit that first Villa goal was a thing of beauty , how they worked it.

Feel like the new generation of English coaches gonna be really good, they've left the old Allerdyce/Pulis style of primitive football and have kept up with the times for once.

 

[Elwood]

They pressed us hard up front and throughout the pitch, yet we didn't have any advantages in numbers in their half. Forget about counters, what is that even?

Everything about our game is just so slow and static, how do we even change that? I have no idea.

 

[Elwood]

Have to admit that first Villa goal was a thing of beauty , how they worked it.

I think it was naive from our defence tbh. You just knew Barkley was gonna do it. I really liked their patience for the setup though.

 

[PressResistance]

Yeah that's the easy thing to do but. Say oh it's my fault.

He was asked about Laca and Willian and their poor performances recently and again instead of "holding them accountable" like he said he would he said if they play poor its because we need to help them more.

Arteta has players playing in imaginary zones and boxes on the pitch. Players seem afraid to venture into another zone. It's like. Ok Saka you can run forward and back but you cant drift 5 yards inside or Elneny you have to be within 10 yards of Tierney to pass at all times.

While some of that is needed what it seems is that hes giving the players too much info too many restrictions and not enough freedom. Which will kill these players as it's boring to watch and very boring to play.

Also if he cant give the players his ideas without having to micromanage them on the sidelines its clear they arent learning or adapting. He literally never shuts up for 2 mins shouting in Spanish to everyone. Imagine being on the ball faced with an opponent and hearing him shouting your name telling you what to do. If you were going to pass left and hes telling you to pass right theres the lag time and by then you've lost the ball.

That's the thing I'm really worried about. And those zones tbh aren't really the danger-zones, but literally the ones your opponent wants you to be in.

On the comment about Willian and Laca, he comes off as delusional. Both he and Laca are senior PL players who played here for a long time and should be spearheading our team, not need help to do their job. If you help your players who are mugs like Willian and Lacazette right now, you overcompensate and hinder others at doing their job.

Nelson right now is better than Willian, he's actually very similar to him as a player, yet he can't get a sniff in the PL no matter what he does. Saliba is better than Mustafi, yet hasn't even gotten a minute. No one expects him to light the world on fire, just to take his lumps and give us enough recovery speed to go higher up. Guendouzi covers acres of ground and passes forward yet he has been supplanted by his older, more conservative alternative in Elnenny after a childish outburst of emotion, yet the non-negotiables include battling, which he was doing the most of . If you shout out so many instructions from the sideline, the veterans aren't needed as they aren't the ones instructing the players. Arteta is either a mad scientist who will take the loss at Villa and transform our team or he's mad full stop if he persist with exactly this.

 

[Red London]

Have to admit that first Villa goal was a thing of beauty , how they worked it.

That goal really made me feel insecure about my club, it really showed us how times have changed and we are now being outclassed by Aston Villa.

The arrogance of them to just stand there but then do something amazing with the ball. The way all their attacking players linked up this game reminded me of a less talented but more efficient version of the Nasri Fabregas Wilshere days.

Grealish was at the top of my wishlist last summer and has only pushed on, I'll be gutted when he goes to a different team. If we wanted to start playing better football and creating more chances against these teams who are doubling up on our wings and playing a low block he is literally the man we needed. If we had any ambition we would have signed him over Willian and been top4 contenders right now.

 

[Rimaal]

I slept on it. It'll be hard to forgive yesterday. Very very hard.

 

[kash2]

anyone who can view things honestly and understands football, knew that Villa were the favourites and that Arsenal are no longer a functional team.

 

[Rex Stone]

anyone who can view things honestly and understands football, knew that Villa were the favourites and that Arsenal are no longer a functional team.

They‘s conceded 7 goals in 2 games and we didn’t get a shot on target.

Yes they’re a decent team but one of the most mediocre back lines in the league and we didn’t even test the keeper.

We absolutely were favourites.

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

Thought the 15 pounds for game got canceled because people weren't happy seem they insist with this bs

The cancellation starts after this international break.

 

[roz]

Terrible result, even worse performance that ruined my weekend. Whats the point in playing the way we do currently if we can’t even get results against the likes of Villa.

The thought of having to watch us fils me with dread. Started getting worried after the Rapid Vienna game which we won but created FA again. Took a corner and standard cut back tap in to take 3 points. This was against a team that cost less than Lacazette.

 

[Aubamagoal]

Why aren't you blaming any of the players? Being a proper bellend with these comments mate. Be constructive.

We need to at least wait until the guy has at least one central creative player.

players dont make the tactics, being a proper bellend yourself for not giving any thought into the discussu

 

[Papa Wonga]

Mikel Pulis

 

[Jakarta]

Forget top 4.

We are in all honestly a top 10 club at best.

 

[kash2]

The club had an honest intelligent experienced man running the club... and they didnt value him. they deserve all the misery they get.

 

[kash2]

By sheer luck they have another decent guy trying to repair the damage.. but they load all the nonsense of ostracizing players, political agendas, idiotic purchases and stingy spending on him..

which idiot fires a mascot of the club at a time of critical change

 

[gamechannel]

By sheer luck they have another decent guy trying to repair the damage.. but they load all the nonsense of ostracizing players, political agendas, idiotic purchases and stingy spending on him..

which idiot fires a mascot of the club at a time of critical change

I'm sorry but Arteta is not a decent man. Dude is as much part of the agenda mob as others in the club hierarchy.

- He needlessly got involved in the wage cut issue when he was only the first team head coach. He should have deferred to the upper management to deal with the players' representative. And when Özil refused the cut due to lack of transparency, Arteta exiled him because his ego was hurt.

- One moment Giendouzi is an automatic starter, the next he's banished from the squad and eventually sent packing on a cheap loan thereby decreasing his resale value massively. Add to this the fact that there was no "clean slate" Arteta spoke about.

- He was instrumental in getting bumper long deals for needless additions like Mari and Cedric. Players we did not need specially on long term deals.

- He fantasized about an over-the-hill Willian and got him in for a ridiculous 3 year deal for 250k per week once you factor in the signing bonus. Worst yet, he still plays him regularly despite Willian playing **** and not working hard enough without the ball. By this logic, Özil could have made the squad too.

- William Saliba can't get a minute at this club and Arteta would much rather play Mustafi over him. Worst yet, he wants to re-sign Mustafi while there have been reports about Saliba wanting out. Way to handle a prized prospect and his resale value, Mikel!

- He doesn't send ESR back out on loan insisting he has a role to play this season yet ESR has been riding the pine. Makes me thing he was kept around just to make up the Home grown player numbers without an actual plan for his development at the club. Ditto for AMN.

- He dicks people around after good performances. Willock plays well in the europa and can't even make the ****ing bench the next game against Villa specially when we are short on ball carrying mids. Nelson is another victim. This coach is terrible at rewarding good performances and capitalizing on form.

- He persists with trash performances week in, week out and freezes other players on contradictory grounds. The same rules don't apply to all players.

He was a mediocre player for much of his playing career, regardless of those who claim otherwise. Now he has one of the biggest coaching gigs in the world and the dude is hell-bent on reveling in the limelight all for himself to his own detriment. He'd rather make big press conferences speaking in hyperbole to come across as intelligent as opposed to upholding the values and football philosophy of this club.

 

[Taneruit]

anyone who can view things honestly and understands football, knew that Villa were the favourites and that Arsenal are no longer a functional team.

We still can be. We were 3 months ago.

That said this result was predictable. Mentioned it last week, mentioned it this week for a simple reason:

The result against ManU was extremely overrated.

Not that our players didn't play well (They did), but I will say it again and again and again. ManU were dreadful. They were worse than they were against Tottenham. There I said it.

But how did that game end?

We won by penalty. BY PENALTY.

Half the premier league (and that's being pessimistic) would have won that game. And not only by a penalty, but by 2 goals at least. Aston Villa would have absolutely decimated United on that day.

Honestly, it would have been better if we had drawn that game. Fans wouldn't have overhyped it, Arteta wouldn't have been drawn to play the exact same players/formation, we wouldn't have to watch that crap a week later.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

By sheer luck they have another decent guy trying to repair the damage.. but they load all the nonsense of ostracizing players, political agendas, idiotic purchases and stingy spending on him..

which idiot fires a mascot of the club at a time of critical change

People will naturally fire shots at whatever they can when the team is losing. But at the end of the day we should be beating Villa at home with this squad. If we had rightly beaten Leicester and Villa in the home games then nobody would be taking shots right now.

Those fine margins, 6 points, shouldn't be the difference between people lauding things at the club and abusing things the club do. I mean just take that in for a minute. The difference between someone like yourself saying we're doing well and then going on to abuse anyone they can within the club and find a scapegoat is probably 6 points.

And for the record they didn't fire the mascot, they said he's coming back when football is back. Which will happen to most of the match day staff who were let go.

 

[14Henry]

People will naturally fire shots at whatever they can when the team is losing. But at the end of the day we should be beating Villa at home with this squad. If we had rightly beaten Leicester and Villa in the home games then nobody would be taking shots right now.

Those fine margins, 6 points, shouldn't be the difference between people lauding things at the club and abusing things the club do. I mean just take that in for a minute. The difference between someone like yourself saying we're doing well and then going on to abuse anyone they can within the club and find a scapegoat is probably 6 points.

And for the record they didn't fire the mascot, they said he's coming back when football is back. Which will happen to most of the match day staff who were let go.

It's not just about the 6 points (which are hugely important). Emery with 6 points more in his first season would have been regarded as a success. However his football was brutal and we were not really improving the longer he was there.

Mikel in the PL has not been great. We havent seen anything better than Emery. This isnt just from this season but last season.

We lost "easy" games last season under Mikel. We got dumped out of the Europa League under Mikel. Performances have been poor and there doesnt seem to be any proactive style of play. Long and short is his football is terrible. Both results wise and on the eye.

People are unhappy with the club for a number of reasons. Such as

- Özil deemed not good enough for bench (we know it's not football reasons)
- 30m Saliba deemed not good enough
-paying 250k+ for our starman who's hugging the touch line and cant utilize his strong points
- changing formations with no clear idea as focusing too much on stopping opponent
- not rewarding good performances with starts ie Willock playing well EL and cant make the bench. You've banged the drum for Pepe and il admit after watching the Villa game we may as well give Pepe a go just to see if he can do something despite my reservations.

Bottom line we are sitting mid-table with no real look that we are going to be challenging for top 4 not based on Villa but based overall from league performances and results since Mikel took over.

We have watched Chelsea strengthen and improve. Sp**s strengthen and improve. We have watched so called inferior teams (Soton/Villa) coached to perform better than in all honesty they probably should based on players and budgets etc.

People say Arteta needs time. But hes been there guts of a year. Liverpool with Klopp after a year had a clear identity albeit not the players. But there was improvements. Brendan Rodgers after a year improved Leicester. Ole had United third last year. Mourinho after not much more than a year looks like hes getting a tune out of Sp**s. Us. We are regressing and that is why fans are starting to become anxious. Not just 6 points.