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Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by Rex Banter, Oct 29, 2020.

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Who was your Man of the Match?

  1. Gabriel

    25.0%
  2. Mo Elneny

    35.7%
  3. Hector Bellerin

    4.8%
  4. Thomas Partey

    34.5%
  5. Other

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Juan Matas Beard

    Juan Matas Beard Friendly Mancunian facial hair

    Went over my head. Probably the best way to mimic GDeep without a jail sentence.
     
  2. Malky

    Malky Established Member

    I'm pretty certain Arteta will go with a Partey, Xhaka, Ceballos midfield again :frustrated:

    Put Willock or Saka in there, atleast look like you want the midfield creating chances.
     
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  3. krengon

    krengon One Arsene Wenger Trusted

    I don’t care how, just win!
     
  4. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member Trusted

    It's not just who he has in the midfield that is the problem, its about who he has as his 5 channels of attack.

    Say we play Auba at Cf, we then need to surround him with technically secure players.

    Bellerin and Tierney are not technically secure in the final 3rd. They will always be driven back. They are technically secure in the middle third. So essentially, last game had both full backs in wide areas as part of the 5 channels of attack. Is that ideal?

    Unless you are Alphonso Davies, do you really want your full back driving to the byline, beating a man and pulling it back. Bellerin and Tierney are not capable of that. They can make a move off the ball and get there if the pass is right, but with a low block the chances are slim.

    So what we need is the 5 channels to be filled with the best ball retention/ goal scorers/dribblers and movers off the ball we have.

    Primary scorers are Auba/Martinelli and Pepe.

    Scorer and dribbler is Saka.

    Runner and scorer is Willock

    That leaves one spot, to a high ball retention player. That is either Nelson or Willian.

    Tierney can effect the game from a deep crossing position like Kimmich. He doesn't have to be right on the byline. Bellerin needs to be tucked in. He doesn't have to get to the byline, but that alone brings his role into question.

    4231 shifts into this

    Saka--------Auba------Pepe---------Willian
    -----------------------Willock
    -----------Tierney----Partey---Bellerin
    ------------------Gabriel---Luiz

    A more adventurous one which @MutableEarth may hate is to play Nelson as a rwb to get high and wide.

    Saka------Auba------Pepe------Nelson
    --------------------Willock
    ---------Tierney---Partey---AMN
    -------------Gabriel-------Luiz
     
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  5. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    We'll go ten men behind the ball, so we won't get hammered. 2 nil United. First time in years that I think they'll thump us with ease.

    We won't exploit their shakey defence. Get Aubameyang far away from AWB and on their misfiring centre backs and Pepe vs Shaw will be giving him nightmares.

    I'd like:

    ----------------------------Leno
    -------------Mustafi-----------------Gabriel----------
    --Bellerin-----------Ceballos------------Tierney
    --------------Partey--------------Xhaka--------------
    --------Pepe------Aubameyang-----Saka--------

    I think by having Ceballos further back, we can manipulate the ball much better. If we were at home, I'd be all for swapping Xhaka for Willian or even Willock, but we're crap away from home.

    Lacazette will start though probably at the expense of Pepe.
     
  6. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    This is why I will always cut Arteta a lot of slack atm, in regards to the style of football we play, look at the combination of skill and speed that team had...night and day from this current one really.
     
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  7. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    I love how you are covering all the bases here :rofl:
     
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  8. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Even tho our record away against big teams is so poverty i can't even look at it but manutd will play open and that suit us hopefully we'll be more adventurous than our game against man city.
     
  9. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    ------------------------Leno
    --Amn------Saliba-------Gabriel---Tierney--
    -----------------------Ceballos------------------------
    -------------Partey----------Özil---------------------
    --------Pepe---------Auba------Willian/Saka


    Luiz isn't included, he's won most of what there is to win in football. Saliba has been put in for athleticism. Özil, who is one of the elite players of his generation, has been banished. I've also swapped a right back who has interested Barca, PSG and Juve for a more athletic full back in AMN.

    The 2006 team is better but let's stop pretending that we have a **** squad who couldn't go to Old Trafford and have them worried. We choose not to.

    DO NOT trust this process of illusion that we lack options.
     
  10. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief Trusted

  11. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    Would be Saliba false 9 for his height.
     
  12. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    He’s trying to get the best out of some absolute cloggers Wenger signed towards the end as well. Someone like Bellerin would have needed sea-sickness tablets after attempting to play with that lot. Imagine Xhaka trying to get involved in the play ffs :rofl: When you’re not really a footballer, you’ll be made to realise it when you’re surrounded by them.
     
  13. HairSprayGooners

    HairSprayGooners Al Jazeera Correspondent

    If we lose this game, depending on the way we lose and the tactics used I think even I will start questioning a few things. You cannot be going for the top 4 and lose to City, Liverpool, Leicester and United before we've even hit 10 games played.
     
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  14. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character Trusted

    What I think we will see
    Leno
    Mustafi Xhaka Gabriel
    Bellerin Ceballos Partey Tierney
    Pepe Lacazette Aubameyang

    What we should see
    Leno
    Bellerin Saliba Gabriel Tierney
    Pepe Ceballos Partey Willian
    Aubameyang Lacazette
     
  15. Gooner1988TK

    Gooner1988TK Active Member


    You think having the resources and stature Utd have but coming 4th and losing 3 semi-finals in a year is impressive? That compared to a man who has brought in stability, 2 excellent signings for the spine, won a trophy to get us into Europe And a community shield? You my friend are fickle and delusional!
     
  16. boxerumble

    boxerumble Well-Known Member

    This 100%
    Hardly falls on Arteta given the fact that we simply don’t have the personnel to create goals at will, but top 4 was never truly realistic let’s be honest. We’re an upper mid table team right now and that’s fact.
     
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  17. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    I said it many times xhaka is undroppable otherwise i agree with you formation
     
  18. lamby22

    lamby22 It's Not Lupus

    I hate that clip. Hate it with a vengeance. The abuse he got that day from supporters in the stadium makes me sick. Shower of ****s.
     
  19. Ibadan

    Ibadan Gagan Jr

    Not the first time you failed to keep your promises to AM.
     
  20. Notorious Big

    Notorious Big Drunka In Friend Zone

    Never seen something similar before and after this.

    Old Toilet is really ****hole ground for us.
     
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