Players who you rate, but most others (mainly on AM) don't

Discussion in 'Football Talk' started by Jury, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. amirkat

    amirkat Well-Known Member

    How can you say John Terry is the best defender you've seen when Rio Ferdinand played in the same era???

    Ferdinand didn't have to do any of that last ditch tackles you probably like @RexBanner because his reading of the game and interceptions were immaculate.
     
  2. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, but rarely

    Campbell and Rio were better than Terry. Terry had protection at club level, looked a little exposed when he stepped up for England, unlike Rio and Sol who were phenomenal for club and country.

    Top defender though, no doubt.
     
  3. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Terry rarely looked the same defender in the CL as he was in the PL.
     
  4. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, but rarely

    I remember I was big on Nzonzi when he was at Blackburn.
     
  5. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    I think Joe Allan is a good player that has been shat on a lot. I think he could hold his own and do a good job for a team much better than Stoke imo.
     
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  6. Notorious Big

    Notorious Big Stuck in the friend zone

    Yea,i forgot about him.A lot of people don't rate him.Very good player.
     
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  7. Notorious Big

    Notorious Big Stuck in the friend zone

    Meh,he had his chance in Liverpool for about 4 years.I don't think he is bad,but not for some top quality team.
     
  8. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    All good players need decent players around them in order to be seen at their best though, no? Or is that only the case at Arsenal? :p
     
  9. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Agreed, the Welsh Elneny.
     
  10. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    I'll resist the temptation to sully my thread with an Elneny debate. But as it's my thread, I'll say this: He'd do a better job here than Elnada would imo. As you've probably gathered, this is not up for debate. :cool:
     
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  11. Notorious Big

    Notorious Big Stuck in the friend zone

    Hard to tell :lol:,I believe that even top teams in Europe have a few average players but they have good cover because of top players and other stuff.Someone said that Pique isn't that good CB,which is true,but he is good in this Barca system and they are quite offensive side.How good he would be in some other side ? Don't know.Allen was good in Swansea and now Stoke.But in Liverpool he didn't produce enough.
     
  12. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, but rarely

    Pique is a top CB, Barcelona miss him when he's out, look at that first goal yesterday.

    He would look more better at Chelsea than Terry would at Barcelona.
     
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  13. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, but rarely

    I remember not many rated Pepe on here many years ago when I was hyping him up, Marcelo too.
     
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  14. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    When AVB first joined Chelsea and they played a high line Terry honestly looked Squillaci level. He's very good in a system that really protects the back 4 but put him in a Barca or Real side that were attacking is the be all and end all and he'd struggle. Same with someone like Godin, believe he'd be badly exposed in Barca or Real too. It's why I have huge respect for defenders like Ramos, Pique and Pepe.
     
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  15. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, but rarely

    Remember around 2012 when I was the only one on here rating Neymar. Arsenal Mania were calling him the new Denilson and Robinho ffs.
     
  16. Notorious Big

    Notorious Big Stuck in the friend zone

    How can you know that ? Bayern has top defenders and in some matches their defence is quite joke and so bad organized.System is much more important than individual quality of the some defenders.We talk about that on Arsenal mania over and over again.
     
  17. zanwalk

    zanwalk Spurs Fan

    A lot of us make the mistake of not appreciating the fact that players fit into some teams much better than they would fit into others, perhaps the manager concerned is able to get much more out of a player than other managers. So that has to be taken into account when rating players.

    Lukaku for instance is an enigma of a player, I watched him today, at times he looked clumsy and picked the wrong option, but then he pops up and scores two goals. Top scorer in the PL atm, so you can't argue with that, but put him in another team and it may well not work.
     
  18. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, but rarely

    Got a great one - Ribery.

    One of the greatest wide boys ever, but Arsenal Mania don't recognise that.
     
  19. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Easily Triggered

    AM wouldn't recognize a proper footballer even the footballer was a fly sitting on Kylie Jenner naked body in just 1 meter distance.
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2017
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  20. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    I remember in 2012 I wishlisted Robben and was told by almost everyone in the lobby at the time that he was incredibly overrated and was finished due to injuries. The next season he had his greatest season as Bayern won everything. :lol:
     

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