Premier League 17/18: Matchday 23

[Trilly]

Not ****ing mind reader, why didn't you put that in your post bro.

I think I did, or strongly implied it. Didn't our sequence start with: there's being a small fish and there's what we're doing.

I was comparing us to the other 'small' fish but you know what, this conversation is tired. We'll leave it there for today mate.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

That was a good game, enjoyed that.

 

[Trilly]

Congratz to Wenger for holding his record.

I always say when teams are on run like City now, and Chelsea last year. This is not easy to do. Its not easy to do what Wenger did.

Because no top 4 again this season I guess

Credit to Wenger for assembling the team and providing the winning formula but I think an invincible season in a league like ours requires elite mentality from the players.

Wenger takes the credit for winning us the league, but for those players to refuse to have an off-day, to refuse to lose a game knowing they had the league in the bag? That's elite mentality, balls the size of the moon they had.

There was a dressing room bust-up when we won the league at WHL because we dropped points! I don't think a squad of men like that will ever be assembled again.

 

[2Smokeyy]

It's depressing seeing our attack compared to Liverpool.

People are discrediting the likes of Mahrez for a potential signing but didn't we do the same to Mane when he was at Southampton and the papers linked him to us.

Mane is such a fantastic player, so is Salah and Firmino.

 

[MLK79]

Ox saying Klopp has told him to shoot more. haha God damnit, Wenger.

Well, Wenger had to tell him to stop shooting because the clock kept getting damaged.

 

[tap-in]

I've only just seen the City result.

Who needs top 4 or even top 6, we're the fvcking Invincibles and always will be!






What do you mean that was 14 years ago!

 

[Dokaka]

Great game, happy for both Arsenal and Liverpool. Would hate to see your undefeated record beaten by slave labour money.

Watching City lose always makes me happy. They'll still win the league but meh, I could buy myself a nice trophy as well and it'd be just about as well earned as that.

I really dislike the general attitude of Pool's fanbase - mostly the old guard tbf - but I do respect their current project and I really like Klopp. Digging themselves back up through smart signings on and off the pitch.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Credit to Wenger for assembling the team and providing the winning formula but I think an invincible season in a league like ours requires elite mentality from the players.

Wenger takes the credit for winning us the league, but for those players to refuse to have an off-day, to refuse to lose a game knowing they had the league in the bag? That's elite mentality, balls the size of the moon they had.

There was a dressing room bust-up when we won the league at WHL because we dropped points! I don't think a squad of men like that will ever be assembled again.

I would say that squad Wenger created was greater than the 300 dudes from Sparta.

 

[GDeep™]

When you look at the top 4/5 managers, it can’t be denied that Wenger is not able to replicate them.

Not his fault though, the game has moved on and he is from another time.

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

Klopp is special.

 

[GDeep™]

Klopp is special.

Has to win something big.

 

[Dokaka]

Has to win something big.

Finishing above Bayern two years in a row is about as big as it gets in terms of difficulty, honestly. Also complimented it with a cup trophy in one of those seasons. Finished 2nd in the CL as well. What he accomplished at Dortmund was insane, especially given the budget available to him.

Simeone, Klopp and Pep -- in that order -- stands above the rest right now in my opinion.

 

[GDeep™]

Finishing above Bayern two years in a row is about as big as it gets in terms of difficulty, honestly. Also complimented it with a cup trophy in one of those seasons. Finished 2nd in the CL as well. What he accomplished at Dortmund was insane, especially given the budget available to him.

Simeone, Klopp and Pep -- in that order -- stands above the rest right now in my opinion.

He’ll be judged on what happens at Liverpool though. They are a sleeping giant and he has been backed by the board. Has to win the league or CL to really cement himself as a great manager.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Jurgen Flopp has to win the league next season. Liverpool have invested to much in the team.

Very average manager who isn't doing nearly good enough given that he has complete finical backing from Liverpool owners.

 

[GeorgiaGunner]

He’ll be judged on what happens at Liverpool though. They are a sleeping giant and he has been backed by the board. Has to win the league or CL to really cement himself as a great manager.

I think a PL in the 'Big 6' era would be plenty. Though given that they're unplayable on their day, even in the superclub era, I could definitely see them going on a run to win the CL in the next few years.

 

[Dokaka]

Jurgen Flopp has to win the league next season. Liverpool have invested to much in the team.

Very average manager who isn't doing nearly good enough given that he has complete finical backing from Liverpool owners.

He's actually operating on a transfer profit right now. Keep in mind that he didn't have anything to do with their 2015 summer, and their biggest signing that season was absolutely awful and something he had to sort out immediately (Benteke).

He’ll be judged on what happens at Liverpool though. They are a sleeping giant and he has been backed by the board. Has to win the league or CL to really cement himself as a great manager.

I think he's already a great manager, but there's some way to go before he can be considered an all time great. Even with Wenger's rapid deterioration in recent years, there's still a massive gulf between him and someone like Klopp when you talk greatest managers in history etc.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

He's actually operating on a transfer profit right now. Keep in mind that he didn't have anything to do with their 2015 summer, and their biggest signing that season was absolutely awful and something he had to sort out immediately (Benteke).



I think he's already a great manager, but there's some way to go before he can be considered an all time great. Even with Wenger's rapid deterioration in recent years, there's still a massive gulf between him and someone like Klopp when you talk greatest managers in history etc.

He is spending insane sums on players, he has no excuses for not winning the league.

 

[Borussin]

Jurgen Flopp has to win the league next season. Liverpool have invested to much in the team.

Very average manager who isn't doing nearly good enough given that he has complete finical backing from Liverpool owners.

a very average manager? Yeah ok!

Kloppo has always done things the hard way, he's never had a silver spoon I guess you can say.

He dosen't have to 'win the league next season', I doubt very much Liverpool bosses think this, first they have to compete more than 1 year in CL in a row. He is competing with oil club, with Chelsea, with Man Utd and their money, he seems to be doing a really good job.

The way he is building this Liverpool team is very impressive, as it was the way he helped build Dortmund - but now it's actually nice to see him doing so with money. And he seems to be spending that money very well and building in methodical way - something he is very good at doing.

He is not an average manager, he is a really good manager and an even better man.

 

[Dokaka]

He is spending insane sums on players, he has no excuses for not winning the league.

Which players? I think your judgment has been clouded a bit by this recent massive transfer for Van Dijk. His biggest fee before this was £37m for Salah. He's sold a ridiculous amount of players in his short time as well, funding all of those transfers.

Klopp is ridiculous at squad building. His Dortmund team was a collection of relatively unknowns. He's ruthless when it comes to getting rid of players not good enough and always finds the right man.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

a very average manager? Yeah ok!

Kloppo has always done things the hard way, he's never had a silver spoon I guess you can say.

He dosen't have to 'win the league next season', I doubt very much Liverpool bosses think this, first they have to compete more than 1 year in CL in a row. He is competing with oil club, with Chelsea, with Man Utd and their money, he seems to be doing a really good job.

The way he is building this Liverpool team is very impressive, as it was the way he helped build Dortmund - but now it's actually nice to see him doing so with money. And he seems to be spending that money very well and building in methodical way - something he is very good at doing.

He is not an average manager, he is a really good manager and an even better man.

Of course he has to win the league next season. Liverpool are investing heavily in the squad. What should be their aim top4? With that investment? Not a chance. Jurgen Flopp has to deliver.