Premier League 2019/20: Can we stay up?

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Aevi, Aug 8, 2019.

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Where do you predict we will finish this season?

  1. 1st

    6.5%
  2. 2nd

    5.2%
  3. 3rd

    35.5%
  4. 4th

    30.3%
  5. 5th/6th

    11.7%
  6. 7th or lower

    10.8%
  1. arsenefc

    arsenefc Obsessed With Guendouzi

    is Luiz the new Cech .. what is different this time?
     
  2. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    It's the best change of all. What is ingrained is the fact a team can waste over a minute per substitution in the knowledge they won't have to play the time. Easily enforced if the player is sent off if he takes the long walk. Once that happens it won't happen again.
     
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  3. Aevi

    Aevi Hands down best mod -Trilly (probably) Moderator

    Was it enforced well?
     
  4. Trilly

    Trilly The John Cross of Ilford

    This is very interesting. But it makes sense.

    If taking the quick free kick restores said goalscoring opportunity then a player should not be punished for denying it.

    If Laca and Auba are through on goal and Vertonghen takes out Auba outside the box, Auba could quickly get up and pass it to Laca who would still be through on goal.

    It's going to be mad though: Auba would have to decide if putting Laca through in goal is more beneficial than the Vertonghen red card and he would have to decide quickly because some other Sp**s mug would also be chasing back and may have caught up during the foul and taking of the free kick.

    edit: Spend all this time creating an example and @albakos has already done it. Fuming.
     
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  5. Hleb's Sirush

    Hleb's Sirush Well-Known Member

    The rest of the team.
     
  6. arsenefc

    arsenefc Obsessed With Guendouzi

    true dat. chelsea sure seem to help us out from time to time. The loan of Benayoun after the 8-2 will always be appreciated. Hope Giroud has repaid the debt somewhat.
     
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  7. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    Yeah, the players took to it straight away. It made the game flow a lot smoother especially in the latter stages.
     
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  8. ChefMan21

    ChefMan21 Well-Known Member

    I think with the substitutions there should be a 30 second 'shot clock'. End of the shot clock and you're not off, it's a penalty from the spot and a £250k fine for the club. Make it hurt.
     
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  9. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    About the season: I expect us to get 4th. I do not think Manu have strengthened enough and a lot of the bad blood in the club is still there. Lukaku might have been a lump but he was often a threat, they now have Rashford and not much more - a spent Sanchez, an irregular Martial - and he is not a great goalscorer. Hard to see where their goals will come from.

    Chelsea are weaker, full stop. Hazard carried them last season and he is no longer there. I think they will regret selling us Luiz, whether he's a success with us we'll see but they'll definitely miss him.

    Can we catch the other three? Let's see. On paper only Sp uds are catchable based on last season but stranger things have happened. We have two games we really must try and win and then the third game is away at Liverpool Even a draw there would be a real statement of intent.
     
  10. Hleb's Sirush

    Hleb's Sirush Well-Known Member

    Also with Cech while we hoped he would improve us, and he did in first season, we still knew he was on a decline. With Luiz it is agreed he is right now the best he has ever been. With experience he has cut down on the howlers (which still happen now and then, hopefully he cuts them down even further). Also with Cech as with any GK apart from perhaps transmitting a calmer vibe and confidence to his defence, they don't have that much influence on the actual play (this was the days before GK's were expected to be good with their feet). With Luiz and his great range of passing he can definitely have a big influence in our play and bridging the gap from defence to midfield and even to the attack.

    Lastly the fee is also different. £10m for a GK 5 years ago was still a sizeable amount. £8m im this current market for a CB is basically chicken feed.
     
  11. Aevi

    Aevi Hands down best mod -Trilly (probably) Moderator

    The BBC pundit predictions have us placed at 4th for the most part.

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  12. samshere

    samshere Why so serieuse?

    Karen Carney really knows her stuff.
     
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  13. mavelous

    mavelous Well-Known Member Trusted

    Whereas Owen has as 6th.
    If not for Pepe and Luiz/ceballos signings, I'm sure he would be predicting everton to displace us from the top 6.

    Incredible how bitter the little man is. Bet he never gets laid, the boring prick
     
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  14. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    Good to see Ruud Gullit not given up on his country's favourite recreational substance.
     
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  15. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Well-Known Member

    Wow Sp**s really are favourites for third. I don't get it. They don't actually have a starting quality right back. They sold Trippier and didn't replace him or am I missing something? Alderweireld is sitting out his contract and Foyth is terrible. They failed to get in another forward so are once again reliant on Kane. Ndombele will be Good, but is Lo Celso some sort of Premier League ready player that I am unaware of. I guess Ericksen wanting to leave has no effect and their manager clearly being unhappy with transfers is fine. But on top of it, they are coming off another season of disappointment and falling short and still only managed 4th by one point.
     
  16. Iceman10

    Iceman10 Well-Known Member

    We have this tricky fixture away at Newcastle, not necessarily because the opponent and venue is imposing, but because of squad circumstances resulting with us being very short, especially out wide. Then we have Burnley at the Emirates, but after that is Liverpool away and Sp**s at home. Just hope we can scrape a result at St James's Park because otherwise there is potential for a lot of gloom after those first four matches. A challenge in general is to minimise bad results during first 2-3 months, until we are at full strength and have new players settled in.
     
  17. redwhiteAustrian

    redwhiteAustrian Tu Felix Austria Administrator

    Absolute no excuse not to finish in the Top 4 this season, after our squad overhaul this summer.

    No Top 4 place, no Emery for 2020/21.

    I'm going for 4th place this season, just.
     
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  18. Gooner416

    Gooner416 Well-Known Member

    Isn’t the third season in his contract an option? Would make it easy for the club to cut him loose if we fall short.
     
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  19. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    He is dirt. After Maradona he is the second biggest cheating ex-player alive.
     
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  20. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain Doom Monger

    I'll be delighted with 10 points from our first four games. Fewer than 7 would be worrying.

    On the Sp uds question, they are favourites for 3rd because they were well ahead most of the season, have added decent players and not lost anyone.

    We'll need to step up a couple of gears to overhaul them this season. I hope we will but I'm not certain we will.
     
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