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Premier League 2023/24: Our Race Is Run
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Country: Northern Ireland
Cut out the patronising. You have been warned.
Farzad
Whistleblower rights activist & PhD in Karenology
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
What you going to do have someone hold your purse so you can punch me virtually? I asked you a question which you can’t answer you play b.tt hurt snowflake. It doesn’t get much mileage with me
DavidHillier
Back to A-M 😞
Not sure if there's an Everton thread, but I hear they're getting a 12 point deduction at the end of this week...
Tourbillion
Angry & Miserable
Farzad
Whistleblower rights activist & PhD in Karenology
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
HagnSprayGooners
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Country: Northern Ireland
Your question was pretty irrelevant, hence why I didn’t answer it.
All I care about is points on the board and the fact we’re freely scoring goals and conceding less. You can’t really ask for more.
RacingPhoton
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Lol.. of all the clubs, they decided to **** everton for ffp? Speak about showing your strength by beating up someone weak
MartiSaka
Join my "Occupy A-M" movement here 🗳
Main thing it tells us is that our games are the most dull to watch.
HattoriHanzo
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Arsenal are less exciting this season – but that makes a title win more likely
Interesting read summarizing our season so far
Interesting read summarizing our season so far
HattoriHanzo
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Country: Croatia
I have noticed that there is a filter on article above.
So, I will give the text here.
Pictures have been deleted.
For Mikel Arteta, football is a game of different gears and paces. The Arsenal manager’s belief is that there are times when a match requires his players to put their foot down, to savage their opponents with high-speed attacks, but that there are also moments when more patience is required.
“It is about having the ability to change gears,” he said earlier this season. “We have to play at different paces.”
After 12 matches of the Premier League campaign, it seems clear that Arteta’s message has sunk in with his players. Arsenal are evolving as a team, finding more of those “gears” and excelling in different areas, and they have already become a different side to the one which challenged for the Premier League title last season.
On the most basic level, the result of these changes is that Arsenal are defensively stronger and more mature than at any point in Arteta’s tenure. The heightened level of security and midfield control has come at a cost, though: in the eyes of many supporters, they are simply not as exciting to watch as they were a year ago.
For much of last season, Arsenal were the league’s most thrilling attacking side. Arteta’s forward players bristled with youthful energy, and they often tore into opposition defences like attack dogs. If Bukayo Saka did not do the damage on the right wing, then Gabriel Martinelli would rip teams apart on the other.
Arsenal finished the season with 88 goals in the Premier League, their highest tally in the competition’s history and 15 more than was scored by the title-winning “Invincibles” side in 2003/04. They attacked hard and fast, seemingly whenever they could, and the Emirates Stadium was enraptured by the sight of it.
Arsenal were a free-scoring side last season CREDIT: Getty Images/Stuart MacFarlane
Clearly, there has been a drop-off since. The Emirates is not quite as wild, on or off the pitch, as it was last season. Arsenal, it seems, are simply not as fun as they were.
The key question is whether this decline in intensity is by design, or whether it has been forced upon them. Arteta has insisted that he has not planned, and does not plan, to sacrifice attacking threat for defensive solidity. “We want to attack better,” he said last month.
If it is not a deliberate strategy, what is causing the downturn in offensive productivity? The obvious answer is that Gabriel Jesus, Arsenal’s best striker and their self-described creator of “chaos”, has missed much of the season through injury. Arteta’s preferred front three of Jesus, Saka and Martinelli have started just one league game together.
And then one must consider the opposition. Arsenal were a surprise package last season. This year, they are feared by teams across the land. It is now customary for opponents to arrive at the Emirates Stadium and immediately set up camp in their own box, challenging Arsenal to break them down. “A lot of teams have been defending with really low blocks,” said Arteta in October.
The consequence of this is that Arteta’s side have less space to attack. They are therefore playing more patiently, completing more passes per game in the final third than last year. Their attacks are slower and more measured (their number of direct attacks has declined, while their number of lengthy passing moves — of 10 or more passes — has risen).
Against packed defences, Arsenal are seeing more of the ball in dangerous areas – but, so far this campaign, they are doing less with it.
Arsenal have conceded just 10 goals in league 12 games this season CREDIT: Getty Images/Glyn Kirk
In the last 20 Premier League campaigns, the championship-winning side has scored an average of 85 goals. By that basic measure, with 88 goals last season, Arsenal had an attack that was good enough to win the league.
Defensively, however, they fell a long way short of the usual requirements of Premier League champions. In the last two decades, the league winners have conceded an average of just 29 goals in their triumphant campaigns. Last year, Arsenal let in 43 goals – 10 more than champions Manchester City.
The most pressing issue for Arteta and technical director Edu in the summer, as they looked to build a team capable of toppling City, was therefore to improve the defence. Arsenal spent £34 million on Jurrien Timber, a multi-functional defender, £105 million on Declan Rice, a defensive midfielder, and effectively committed £30 million to the signing of David Raya, a new goalkeeper. They did not spend a single penny on a forward (they consider Kai Havertz to be a midfield player).
A serious knee injury has prevented Timber from impacting the team but the addition of Rice has certainly made Arsenal more solid in midfield. With him patrolling the centre of the pitch, and with William Saliba continuing to excel at the heart of defence, Arteta’s side are now more resilient and durable than they were last year.
In 12 games so far this season, Arsenal have conceded only 10 goals. Along with Liverpool, that is the leading defensive record in the league. Meanwhile their expected goals against (which effectively measures the quality of the chances they have conceded) is comfortably the best in the division.
Arsenal are facing fewer shots, conceding fewer chances and allowing fewer touches in their penalty box than they were last season. They are also more secure with the ball: last year, Arsenal lost possession within 40 metres of their own goal around seven times per game. This season, that “high turnover” figure is down to just five per game.
Arteta’s view of football stems from his education at Barcelona, and the work of Johan Cruyff. The Dutchman’s philosophy was based on the importance of ball possession. “When you dominate the ball, you move well,” Cruyff once said. “You have what the opposition don’t, and therefore they can’t score.”
It might sound simple but not all managers seek to control games with possession. Some prefer to do so without the ball. For Arteta, there is only one way. “We want that ball as much as possible,” he said earlier in his Arsenal tenure.
In Arsenal’s case, more of the ball means more control, and more control means fewer opportunities for the opponent. This season they have had more possession, on average, than last year. Their number of accurate passes has increased, too, from 459 per game in 2022/23 to 499 per game this season.
It certainly had an impact in Saturday’s victory over Burnley, when Arsenal scored twice from set pieces in the second half. The deeper the opposition sit, the more set pieces they are likely to concede – and Arsenal have worked hard to make the most of those situations.
Arsenal's height is an advantage at set-pieces CREDIT: Reuters/Andrew Couldridge
Arsenal’s current team is their tallest since the Invincibles campaign of 2003/04 and they are now carrying a serious threat from corners and free kicks. So far this season, they have scored eight goals from set pieces (not including penalties), the most in the division. “We have big lads,” Arteta said after Saturday’s win. “It is a good way for us to score goals.”
In the Premier League, only Everton have scored a greater proportion of their goals from set pieces (six of 14, or 43 per cent) than Arsenal (eight of 26, or 31 per cent).
At this stage of last season, Arsenal were two points clear at the top of the table, with 30 goals scored and 11 conceded. Now, they are one point off the top, with 26 goals scored and 10 conceded. In the eyes of some, that will be seen as regression. Especially as the attacking play is less thrilling than it was.
But Arsenal’s hope will be that, over the course of a campaign, their newfound defensive solidity will help them to go one step further than last year. The football might not be as risky or enjoyable to watch, but that will not bother Arteta if the campaign ends with the Premier League trophy in his hands.
So, I will give the text here.
Pictures have been deleted.
For Mikel Arteta, football is a game of different gears and paces. The Arsenal manager’s belief is that there are times when a match requires his players to put their foot down, to savage their opponents with high-speed attacks, but that there are also moments when more patience is required.
“It is about having the ability to change gears,” he said earlier this season. “We have to play at different paces.”
After 12 matches of the Premier League campaign, it seems clear that Arteta’s message has sunk in with his players. Arsenal are evolving as a team, finding more of those “gears” and excelling in different areas, and they have already become a different side to the one which challenged for the Premier League title last season.
On the most basic level, the result of these changes is that Arsenal are defensively stronger and more mature than at any point in Arteta’s tenure. The heightened level of security and midfield control has come at a cost, though: in the eyes of many supporters, they are simply not as exciting to watch as they were a year ago.
Less chaos, more patience
Is that a fair assessment? Well, the numbers do not lie. Arsenal are creating fewer chances, scoring fewer goals and taking fewer shots than they were last season. So far in 2023/24, they rank 12th in the Premier League for expected goals from open play. Everton, Wolves and Brentford are among the teams who rank higher.For much of last season, Arsenal were the league’s most thrilling attacking side. Arteta’s forward players bristled with youthful energy, and they often tore into opposition defences like attack dogs. If Bukayo Saka did not do the damage on the right wing, then Gabriel Martinelli would rip teams apart on the other.
Arsenal finished the season with 88 goals in the Premier League, their highest tally in the competition’s history and 15 more than was scored by the title-winning “Invincibles” side in 2003/04. They attacked hard and fast, seemingly whenever they could, and the Emirates Stadium was enraptured by the sight of it.
Arsenal were a free-scoring side last season CREDIT: Getty Images/Stuart MacFarlane
Clearly, there has been a drop-off since. The Emirates is not quite as wild, on or off the pitch, as it was last season. Arsenal, it seems, are simply not as fun as they were.
The key question is whether this decline in intensity is by design, or whether it has been forced upon them. Arteta has insisted that he has not planned, and does not plan, to sacrifice attacking threat for defensive solidity. “We want to attack better,” he said last month.
If it is not a deliberate strategy, what is causing the downturn in offensive productivity? The obvious answer is that Gabriel Jesus, Arsenal’s best striker and their self-described creator of “chaos”, has missed much of the season through injury. Arteta’s preferred front three of Jesus, Saka and Martinelli have started just one league game together.
And then one must consider the opposition. Arsenal were a surprise package last season. This year, they are feared by teams across the land. It is now customary for opponents to arrive at the Emirates Stadium and immediately set up camp in their own box, challenging Arsenal to break them down. “A lot of teams have been defending with really low blocks,” said Arteta in October.
The consequence of this is that Arteta’s side have less space to attack. They are therefore playing more patiently, completing more passes per game in the final third than last year. Their attacks are slower and more measured (their number of direct attacks has declined, while their number of lengthy passing moves — of 10 or more passes — has risen).
Against packed defences, Arsenal are seeing more of the ball in dangerous areas – but, so far this campaign, they are doing less with it.
The Premier League’s best defence
Arsenal have conceded just 10 goals in league 12 games this season CREDIT: Getty Images/Glyn Kirk
In the last 20 Premier League campaigns, the championship-winning side has scored an average of 85 goals. By that basic measure, with 88 goals last season, Arsenal had an attack that was good enough to win the league.
Defensively, however, they fell a long way short of the usual requirements of Premier League champions. In the last two decades, the league winners have conceded an average of just 29 goals in their triumphant campaigns. Last year, Arsenal let in 43 goals – 10 more than champions Manchester City.
The most pressing issue for Arteta and technical director Edu in the summer, as they looked to build a team capable of toppling City, was therefore to improve the defence. Arsenal spent £34 million on Jurrien Timber, a multi-functional defender, £105 million on Declan Rice, a defensive midfielder, and effectively committed £30 million to the signing of David Raya, a new goalkeeper. They did not spend a single penny on a forward (they consider Kai Havertz to be a midfield player).
A serious knee injury has prevented Timber from impacting the team but the addition of Rice has certainly made Arsenal more solid in midfield. With him patrolling the centre of the pitch, and with William Saliba continuing to excel at the heart of defence, Arteta’s side are now more resilient and durable than they were last year.
In 12 games so far this season, Arsenal have conceded only 10 goals. Along with Liverpool, that is the leading defensive record in the league. Meanwhile their expected goals against (which effectively measures the quality of the chances they have conceded) is comfortably the best in the division.
Arsenal are facing fewer shots, conceding fewer chances and allowing fewer touches in their penalty box than they were last season. They are also more secure with the ball: last year, Arsenal lost possession within 40 metres of their own goal around seven times per game. This season, that “high turnover” figure is down to just five per game.
Arteta’s view of football stems from his education at Barcelona, and the work of Johan Cruyff. The Dutchman’s philosophy was based on the importance of ball possession. “When you dominate the ball, you move well,” Cruyff once said. “You have what the opposition don’t, and therefore they can’t score.”
It might sound simple but not all managers seek to control games with possession. Some prefer to do so without the ball. For Arteta, there is only one way. “We want that ball as much as possible,” he said earlier in his Arsenal tenure.
In Arsenal’s case, more of the ball means more control, and more control means fewer opportunities for the opponent. This season they have had more possession, on average, than last year. Their number of accurate passes has increased, too, from 459 per game in 2022/23 to 499 per game this season.
The set-piece threat of Arteta’s ‘big lads’
“Against low blocks we are going to be able to generate more free-kicks and more corners than last year,” said Arteta last month. “That is going to have an impact.”It certainly had an impact in Saturday’s victory over Burnley, when Arsenal scored twice from set pieces in the second half. The deeper the opposition sit, the more set pieces they are likely to concede – and Arsenal have worked hard to make the most of those situations.
Arsenal's height is an advantage at set-pieces CREDIT: Reuters/Andrew Couldridge
Arsenal’s current team is their tallest since the Invincibles campaign of 2003/04 and they are now carrying a serious threat from corners and free kicks. So far this season, they have scored eight goals from set pieces (not including penalties), the most in the division. “We have big lads,” Arteta said after Saturday’s win. “It is a good way for us to score goals.”
In the Premier League, only Everton have scored a greater proportion of their goals from set pieces (six of 14, or 43 per cent) than Arsenal (eight of 26, or 31 per cent).
At this stage of last season, Arsenal were two points clear at the top of the table, with 30 goals scored and 11 conceded. Now, they are one point off the top, with 26 goals scored and 10 conceded. In the eyes of some, that will be seen as regression. Especially as the attacking play is less thrilling than it was.
But Arsenal’s hope will be that, over the course of a campaign, their newfound defensive solidity will help them to go one step further than last year. The football might not be as risky or enjoyable to watch, but that will not bother Arteta if the campaign ends with the Premier League trophy in his hands.
Synical
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Source?
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GoonerJeeves
Established Member
Country: Norway
Just a bit of twist in his ankle apparantly. Supposedly nothing major, though this coming from the medicos at the Norwegian national team.....he's probably a stiff already.
Synical
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Country: England
Rodri looks like he's going to miss the Liverpool game too
ItzdoctorZ
Active Member
This is just Pep mind games
Tir Na Nog
Changes Opinion Every 5 Minutes
Country: Ireland
Sp**s could fall off massively and with Maddison out you doubt this trend is gonna improve all that much. No surprise of the top 3, just hammer the same point we need to get better at creating clear chances but not massively behind.
Synical
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Country: England
Update: it was all lies. He's fit. It was just Pep cheating again
HagnSprayGooners
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Good start to the weekend for us.
Win today and we go top, no pressure.
Also not just important for today, City have a difficult run of games. Liverpool and Arsenals are straight forward on paper.
City - Sp**s (H), Villa (A), Luton (A)
We need to start building a bit of a gap, starting today.
Win today and we go top, no pressure.
Also not just important for today, City have a difficult run of games. Liverpool and Arsenals are straight forward on paper.
City - Sp**s (H), Villa (A), Luton (A)
We need to start building a bit of a gap, starting today.
TheEliteMaster100_
Turns up only when we lose
We need to go on a winning run before we play at Villa Park (they haven't lost at home since Jorginho comeback in February), Brighton (smoked us 3-0 at the Emirates) and Anfield (we got a mental block at this stadium in recent times).
The way we're playing, I'm not that optimistic.
The way we're playing, I'm not that optimistic.
Yousif Arsenal
Was on Vinai's payroll; misses 4th place trophy 🏆
Only amount of goals is lacking but what i need us to do is we keep being consistent 80-85 club points even if we don't win anything because one season could come and we do a Liverpool and just go all way. Consistency is important for if you want to be big club
Also Chelsea are back ffs they 6 points worse than last season and last season were horrible
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