Premier League 2024/25: Hamstrung Race

[Dennis_Bergkamp_10]

You guys need to relax after a disappointing result and start looking at things objectively. For one, City is favourite. They were beforehand and they are now, given that they won 6 out of the last 7 titles, have the best team, the best manager and the best most charges.

We are 5 points behind City and 4 behind Liverpool after 9 games. These 9 games are a small sample so it matters to look at it in a different way. A home game vs. Ipswich for instance if much more favourable than an away game at Newcastle. On average, teams tend to drop more points if the opposition is better.

We faced Villa, Sp**s, City and Bournemouth away, whereas City only faced Chelsea, West Ham and Newcastle away. Liverpool have had Man Utd, Palace and us away. In the next two games, Liverpool play Brighton and Villa at home. They've had if fairly easy. Meanwhile we go to Newcastle and Chelsea. Get at least 4 points in the next couple of games and then go on a big run vs. the smaller teams. Meanwhile, players like Ødegaard come back.

Believe ffs.

 

[db10_therza]

You guys need to relax after a disappointing result and start looking at things objectively. For one, City is favourite. They were beforehand and they are now, given that they won 6 out of the last 7 titles, have the best team, the best manager and the best most charges.

We are 5 points behind City and 4 behind Liverpool after 9 games. These 9 games are a small sample so it matters to look at it in a different way. A home game vs. Ipswich for instance if much more favourable than an away game at Newcastle. On average, teams tend to drop more points if the opposition is better.

We faced Villa, Sp**s, City and Bournemouth away, whereas City only faced Chelsea, West Ham and Newcastle away. Liverpool have had Man Utd, Palace and us away. In the next two games, Liverpool play Brighton and Villa at home. They've had if fairly easy. Meanwhile we go to Newcastle and Chelsea. Get at least 4 points in the next couple of games and then go on a big run vs. the smaller teams. Meanwhile, players like Ødegaard come back.

Believe ffs.

This all sounds nice but you’re not really addressing the fixture list.

I’m not counting Liverpool they showed me yday they ain’t gonna do jack.

There is no way we will gain points on city in the last 10/11 games. Again, look at the fixture list first before replying I beg you.

I also don’t see us gaining on them in the next 2 games looking at the fixtures.

Which leaves the block of 15/16 games in the middle where we need to not just be within reach but actually open up a lead over them because of their ridiculously easy end to the season.

It’s asking A LOT is all I’m saying. I get some people will believe until the last second no matter what but you have to admit it’s looking long.

 

[Rasmi]

This all sounds nice but you’re not really addressing the fixture list.

I’m not counting Liverpool they showed me yday they ain’t gonna do jack.

There is no way we will gain points on city in the last 10/11 games. Again, look at the fixture list first before replying I beg you.

I also don’t see us gaining on them in the next 2 games looking at the fixtures.

Which leaves the block of 15/16 games in the middle where we need to not just be within reach but actually open up a lead over them because of their ridiculously easy end to the season.

It’s asking A LOT is all I’m saying. I get some people will believe until the last second no matter what but you have to admit it’s looking long.

Bournemouth loss and Brighton draw means the margin for error next few weeks are none existent. Next two are Newcastle and Chelsea away. Two teams with poor defences that we can really hurt

We put 9 past them at home last season. But lost and drew away from home creating very little. We just don’t go at teams away from home and with Newcastle poor defence they would love that. With the defence in defence Arteta should trust his attack and say go for it and win us these games. Sadly I expect an even more defensive Arteta trying to protect the defence. Either way next two league games will either mean we out of this or have two away wins

 

[db10_therza]

Bournemouth loss and Brighton draw means the margin for error next few weeks are none existent. Next two are Newcastle and Chelsea away. Two teams with poor defences that we can really hurt

We put 9 past them at home last season. But lost and drew away from home creating very little. We just don’t go at teams away from home and with Newcastle poor defence they would love that. With the defence in defence Arteta should trust his attack and say go for it and win us these games. Sadly I expect an even more defensive Arteta trying to protect the defence. Either way next two league games will either mean we out of this or have two away wins

Newcastle have looked absolutely rubbish this season so we should batter them.

 

[Dennis_Bergkamp_10]

This all sounds nice but you’re not really addressing the fixture list.

I’m not counting Liverpool they showed me yday they ain’t gonna do jack.

There is no way we will gain points on city in the last 10/11 games. Again, look at the fixture list first before replying I beg you.

I also don’t see us gaining on them in the next 2 games looking at the fixtures.

Which leaves the block of 15/16 games in the middle where we need to not just be within reach but actually open up a lead over them because of their ridiculously easy end to the season.

It’s asking A LOT is all I’m saying. I get some people will believe until the last second no matter what but you have to admit it’s looking long.

It is asking a lot, because they are favourites. But we've had the tougher fixture list and more injuries to cope with. City go to Sp**s tomorrow in the EFL Cup (which they'll play squaddies), then to Bournemouth (which we know isn't easy), then to Sporting midweek, then to Brighton, then play Sp**s at home, where they always tend to fail, Feyenoord midweek, Liverpool away. In December, after their game away at Juventus, they play United at home and then Villa away.

We got to make sure that we go on a run against the small teams. Then it's possible. No more losing six points to Fulham.

Also you're forgetting the 250 point deduction they're getting in March.

 

[Red London]

Newcastle have looked absolutely rubbish this season so we should batter them.

Based off form from the last few games they’ve gotta be the top3 worst sides in the league atm.

 

[Red London]

Keeping an eye on injuries but we should be beating both Chelsea and Newcastle, especially the latter.

If we are missing Calafiori, Timber, Gabriel, Tomiyasu (ffs this could make the back 4 of a top3 PL team’s defence alone) all for the Chelsea game then it’s very concerning because their attack is in great form.

However if we get a couple of those guys back for that, we should be dispatching them.

 

[freeglennhelder2]

You guys need to relax after a disappointing result and start looking at things objectively. For one, City is favourite. They were beforehand and they are now, given that they won 6 out of the last 7 titles, have the best team, the best manager and the best most charges.

We are 5 points behind City and 4 behind Liverpool after 9 games. These 9 games are a small sample so it matters to look at it in a different way. A home game vs. Ipswich for instance if much more favourable than an away game at Newcastle. On average, teams tend to drop more points if the opposition is better.

We faced Villa, Sp**s, City and Bournemouth away, whereas City only faced Chelsea, West Ham and Newcastle away. Liverpool have had Man Utd, Palace and us away. In the next two games, Liverpool play Brighton and Villa at home. They've had if fairly easy. Meanwhile we go to Newcastle and Chelsea. Get at least 4 points in the next couple of games and then go on a big run vs. the smaller teams. Meanwhile, players like Ødegaard come back.

Believe ffs.

5pts behind City and need to be 4-5 pts ahead by the start of March. Theres no more to it than that . People are not relaxed because this point swing can only be achieved in a world of puppy dogs & ice cream.

 

[Hleb's Sirush]

The margin for error has become smaller. We need to pick up a minimum of 4 points from Chelsea and Newcastle. Ideally all 6. If we do and hopefully City and Liverpool drop points by then the league table could look a lot more favourable for us. After those two games if we are let's say 3 or 2 points off City and Liverpool after 11 games. That would actually be a good position considering we already played City, Sp**s, Villa, Chelsea and Newcastle away. It would mean we only have Liverpool away left from last season's top 7.

 

[sdotzdot]

The season is long, you go through it in chunks. Anyone who is genuinely counting us out after 9 games doesn't understand how football works or is a huge pus$y, this is just the fact of the matter.

We've had an insane start to the season in terms of injury and referee decisions and are still barely behind. With the bulk of the season left, so long as we manage to have our share of luck with injuries moving forward then yes we absolutely still have every chance of winning the league.

It's too early to say anything either way. Nothing is concrete, we're not clearly winning nor are we clearly far off. We will undoubtedly be up there come the end of the season. Any opinions either side of that is clearly driven by emotion, which is fine it's literally the whole point of being fans, but some objectivity and context needs to be reinserted to what we've experienced so far this season and what's coming up.

 

[Sammy1887]

Lets concentrate on the cups and the UCL

 

[BergMan]

Everyone’s making out like we have some kind of injury crisis. The only injured players who would play are Ødegaard and Calafiori. That’s nothing.

 

[Dennis_Bergkamp_10]

Everyone’s making out like we have some kind of injury crisis. The only injured players who would play are Ødegaard and Calafiori. That’s nothing.

 

[HattoriHanzo]

Everyone’s making out like we have some kind of injury crisis. The only injured players who would play are Ødegaard and Calafiori. That’s nothing.

You think that Arteta would put Partey on RB if Tomiyasu was fit?

 

[BergMan]

You think that Arteta would put Partey on RB if Tomiyasu was fit?

Yes, actually. Not the first time Partey played RB.

 

[HattoriHanzo]

Yes, actually. Not the first time Partey played RB.

No, he wouldn't.
Tomiyasu would play LB, Timber would play RB yesterday.
Arteta actually trusts Tomiyasu, the problem is that Tomiyasu is never fit.
So, Tomiyasu was also missing.

 

[Synical]

Everyone’s making out like we have some kind of injury crisis. The only injured players who would play are Ødegaard and Calafiori. That’s nothing.

Gabriel being injured is not a crisis?

 

[Penn_]

Everyone’s making out like we have some kind of injury crisis. The only injured players who would play are Ødegaard and Calafiori. That’s nothing.

Eh? Saka and Timber have literally just returned and likely not fully fit. Tomiyasu 100% comes on to help secure games, no surprise we've been conceding late. And now Gabriel is down.

Ødegaard, Saka and Gabirel are part of the core of the team, literally 3 of 4 players rivals would take out.

 

[Synical]

Eh? Saka and Timber have literally just returned and likely not fully fit. Tomiyasu 100% comes on to help secure games, no surprise we've been conceding late. And now Gabriel is down.

Ødegaard, Saka and Gabirel are part of the core of the team, literally 3 of 4 players rivals would take out.

Oh yeah! Timber went off injured at the end of that match, and I completely forgot about Tomi because he's never around

Some posters enjoy gaslighting

 

[Sapient Hawk]

Did you actually watch the match (and the others where we have dropped points) and seen the corrupt decisions from the referee?

Of course. Does my indignation not come across as strong enough?!!