Loss Premier League: Newcastle 1 - 0 Arsenal | Saturday 2rd November | KO: 12:30 GMT | TNT Sports

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Newcastle 0-1 Arsenal

 

[El Realista]

Different league la Liga always been more attacking than PL. The PL specially after pep influence all copying him

If Wenger did think that way when PL was about ogres running behind a ball with axes and rocks... This is why those nowdays "talented" players don't last more than a few years now, they lose speed and acceleration and they have nothing because modern players are so bad technically and can't think anything outside boring patters they can't shine past 28yo, even 25.

Until managers grow a pair and start playing real football, this sport is over. I am seriously thinking stop watching football, even UCL is boring with this new format.

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

Completely agree, our manager doesn't have the balls to play a midfielder that is capable of creating chances. He is so negative and reluctant to fix his poor results until something force it to. For example, the best thing it could happen to us is if injuries force him to play Nwaneri in Odes place. Rice and Merino is the worst partnership we have had in years in terms of creativity. They don't offer anything in attack. When you have players like Rice, Merino, Coquelin, Kante, etc that are not good progressing the ball you need a baller next to them, someone capable of creating football from the mid.

Just like last season when Arteta persisted with Havertz in the middle and did cost us the PL, he is repeating the same stupid mistakes with Rice-Merino. I swear Zinchenko playing the Ødegaard role would be much better, but his square head can't think about and try.

Ngl, I wish Merino wasn't available atm. MLS can carry the ball and Nwaneri has it. I'd take either as the third midfielder just to shake things up. Now is the time as we are losing games anyway so the pressure is off.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

If Wenger did think that way when PL was about ogres running behind a ball with axes and rocks... This is why those "talented" players don't last more than a few years now, they lose speed and acceleration and they have nothing because modern players are so bad technically and can't think anything outside boring patters they can't shine past 28yo.

Until managers grow a pair and start playing real football, this sport is over. I am seriously thinking stop watching football, even UCL is boring with this new format.

Yes football now tactical strict players do anything. I hope things go back where there balance but can't see it most teams play the same. You need duel winners touch line wingers strikers who bring everyone into play everything is strict there reason you see little individual brilliance

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Ngl, I wish Merino wasn't available atm. MLS can carry the ball and Nwaneri has it. I'd take either as the third midfielder just to shake things up. Now is the time as we are losing games anyway so the pressure is off.

We can't keep blame merino the guy only 4th game in arsenal shirt blame your 4 players forward who really not influence the game Trossard Martinelli and Havertz have worst game probably this season

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

Two things.

The first is that in the PL and particularly how teams approach our games makes it critically important to be efficient in the box.

You not going to get a blowout in our games because we don’t open up games enough. Only once we open teams up by scoring will we dominate them. Thats what happened after we scored at Villa.

So becoming efficient in the box is a must.

Second point… watch closely when we play and how we see patterns repeat itself in game. That’s what Arteta is giving the players to run with and it’s up to them to convert those patterns into goals.

And you do see those patterns suit the players. Look how Nwaneri found himself in that space outside the box for his shot yet again today. Same zone as we saw against Preston,

I don’t think the atracking issue is Arteta not being able to coach attack, I think the issue is that we aren’t efficient enough in the box. We must fix this if we want to compete and win.

I agree that we don't open teams up enough and imo with consistency. When we do, I don't think we dominate as we might. The eye test and numerous comments in the matchday thread shows that we too often retreat and try to "control" the game after scoring. I know its a dodgy time after scoring but we are too passive. I agree about being efficient in the box but despite the xg for, we haven't had a top reliable striker since Auba!
Second, I do agree that we repeat our patterns. Unfortunately, they don't always work and as we repeat them, so the opposition become more stoic at resisting them. When this doesn't work, we need that X factor and nobody really has it. As many have said, we could have played all day and still not scored. The repeated patterns don't always favour the players we have. Your Nwaneri point is valid but again, that was one chance that fell to a child. Too little, too late.
Under Wenger, we were often accused of trying to walk the ball into the net. Today, we had our back to goal and treated the box like it was full of fentanyl. Arteta knows his players and knows that they are ALL profligate, so he is coaching for a player we don't have-unless he throws Butler-Oyedeji on at CF

 

[El Realista]

Yes football now tactical strict players do anything. I hope things go back where there balance but can't see it most teams play the same. You need duel winners touch line wingers strikers who bring everyone into play everything is strict there reason you see little individual brilliance

Football has them since the beginning, difference is players like Gattuso played next to players like Pirlo so you didn't look like Arteta's terrorist football does.

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

We can't keep blame merino the guy only 4th game in arsenal shirt blame your 4 players forward who really not influence the game Trossard Martinelli and Havertz have worst game probably this season

I'm not intending to blame Merino but more the decision to play him with Rice and the ? over his actual role.

 

[El Realista]

We can't keep blame merino the guy only 4th game in arsenal shirt blame your 4 players forward who really not influence the game Trossard Martinelli and Havertz have worst game probably this season

I am not blaming Merino, I didn't want him here since the rumours started. I always wanted someone creative enough to complement Rice. Merino looked average for me. I blame Arteta for getting a player which is basically Rice with darker hair. The guy is not guilty our manager ask him to do something he is not capable of. He is not good on the ball, he is very poor passing the ball and has poor vision and creativity. We lack everything Xhaka gave us with his creativity and passing.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

I am not blaming Merino, I didn't want him here since the rumours started. I always wanted someone creative enough to complement Rice. Merino looked average for me. I blame Arteta for getting a player which is basically Rice with darker hair. The guy is not guilty our manager ask him to do something he is not capable of. He is not good on the ball, he is very poor passing the ball and has poor vision and creativity. We lack everything Xhaka gave us with his creativity and passing.

We all know what he bring to team before he signed but early to judge he was decent against Liverpool but these tow away games him and rest of team just failed to deliver I would question him if he the only one who struggle but the fact Martinelli and Trossard who playing in his side had worse game than him is more troubling. Even timber wasn't having the best of games

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

I'm not intending to blame Merino but more the decision to play him with Rice and the ? over his actual role.

Rice much better as DM imo as LCM I really don't like it because limit his game but with white back and Ødegaard in few days now it'll be a decision to make one of Merino or Partey will have to be on bench likely merino because Partey been good.

 

[pure profit FC]

That feeling seeing City have lost, after eating your XXXXXL pizza...

Jerk chicken , rice and peas for me.

 

[GunnerRocket]

Team looks complacent. Like they think they're going to out-talent everyone every week. Probably the least watchable Arsenal team in some time.

 

[El Realista]

We all know what he bring to team before he signed but early to judge he was decent against Liverpool but these tow away games him and rest of team just failed to deliver I would question him if he the only one who struggle but the fact Martinelli and Trossard who playing in his side had worse game than him is more troubling. Even timber wasn't having the best of games

All you saying is systematic. Like when Havertz played as LCM. Until Arteta stops playing without creative CMs we will struggle creating anything. It's so easy for teams to defend when your only weapon is your LW. Arteta is lucky our set piece manager has saved his ass so many times.

 

[Let's play Aubamawang]

Probably an overreaction, but that performance was woeful. Regardless of Arteta's selections, we should have been better than that. The problem is we have no replacement if we miss Ode and the lack of creativity is showing now. We got away with it when Gabriel was banging in headers for fun, but we're getting found out now.

Dreadful result in the context of City's result, as this was a rare opportunity and the games aren't getting any easier. I don't see how we're challenging for the league this season based on results and performances.

 

[Gooner Zig]

Probably an overreaction, but that performance was woeful. Regardless of Arteta's selections, we should have been better than that. The problem is we have no replacement if we miss Ode and the lack of creativity is showing now. We got away with it when Gabriel was banging in headers for fun, but we're getting found out now.

Dreadful result in the context of City's result, as this was a rare opportunity and the games aren't getting any easier. I don't see how we're challenging for the league this season based on results and performances.

After the Chelsea game next week we have a large swath of games that are all winnable.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

After the Chelsea game next week we have a large swath of games that are all winnable.

So many tricky games behind us. Its a big positive.

Just get serious and win 24/28 and all is forgiven.

 

[Let's play Aubamawang]

After the Chelsea game next week we have a large swath of games that are all winnable.

I agree, but the Chelsea game could put us further behind and the way Forest are playing, I'm not convinced we won't drop points against them.

 

[ThisFather]

Up against Villa and Chelsea now in the league. It's a top 4 war.

 

[Big Poppa]

Team looks complacent. Like they think they're going to out-talent everyone every week. Probably the least watchable Arsenal team in some time.

Yep. It’s not the performances it’s the mindset. We’re going into every game set up for a defensive slugfest.

Attacking in a defensive shape at 0-0, defending deep as soon as we score. I can understand it if you’re going to the Bernebeu every week but we do this against mid table PL teams and tier 2/3 European teams. Very Southgate England-like.

I can’t help thinking we’re feeling sorry for ourselves because of injuries, tough fixtures, ref decisions and general bad luck but we need to be way more assertive with our football.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Yep. It’s not the performances it’s the mindset. We’re going into every game set up for a defensive slugfest.

Attacking in a defensive shape at 0-0, defending deep as soon as we score. I can understand it if you’re going to the Bernebeu every week but we do this against mid table PL teams and tier 2/3 European teams. Very Southgate England-like.

I can’t help thinking we’re feeling sorry for ourselves because of injuries, tough fixtures, ref decisions and general bad luck but we need to be way more assertive with our football.

I think we still have this poor mentality of not capable of turning things around away from home we rarely find ourselves losing away in 2024 but for first time since Fulham game late 2023 I see a team who not giving effort despite having 75 minutes to comeback.


Likely we not as fluid as last season because of amount of games we playing Injures and few games we end up playing with 10 men we having we trying to save energy every game that Shakhtar game was clear sign. Was always mistake leaving squad short in some areas