Premier League • Matchweek 11
Stadium of Light • 08 Nov 2025 17:30
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Sunderland
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2 - 2
Arsenal
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David Raya 1 6.00
Jurrien Timber 12 6.00 William Saliba 2 7.00 Gabriel Magalhaes 6 6.00 Riccardo Calafiori 33 6.00
Eberechi Eze 10 7.00 Martin Zubimendi 🟨 36 8.00 Declan Rice 41 7.00 Mikel Merino 23 7.00
Cristhian Mosquera 3 6.00
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Bukayo Saka 9.00 Bukayo Saka
Team Rating: 6.83
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The fact is that City have already lost 3 games this season despite it only being MW11. They will do extremely well to keep their L count to below 6.
I'd hope so but wouldn't read too much into that. They've lost twice by MW11 before and ended on 3 total losses. They've improved a lot since first few games and players come back into the side since then. They're not a vintage city side but can see them going on a strong run now
 

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I'd hope so but wouldn't read too much into that. They've lost twice by MW11 before and ended on 3 total losses. They've improved a lot since first few games and players come back into the side since then. They're not a vintage city side but can see them going on a strong run now

I think only one team in PL history has had 3 or more Ls at MW10 and gone on to win the PL which was City in 13/14. The last 10 years the PL champion has had a maximum of two losses at this stage. It's a very telling statistic.
 

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I think only one team in PL history has had 3 or more Ls at MW10 and gone on to win the PL which was City in 13/14. The last 10 years the PL champion has had a maximum of two losses at this stage. It's a very telling statistic.

Tbf in the same fixtures last year City had 11 points less than today. If there's one team who can go on a huge run it's Man City.
 

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Tbf in the same fixtures last year City had 11 points less than today. If there's one team who can go on a huge run it's Man City.

You think that because you are projecting past City teams with the likes of KdB, Gundogan, Mahrez, peak Rodri playing key roles. Look at it objectively and ask yourself, do you see *this* City team going on those crazy runs? I would be absolutely staggered if they do. Heck, they just lost to Villa not too long ago. I think too many Arsenal fans have PTSD from City snatching the title away from us in 22/23 and 23/24 - this is *not* the same team. We are better than them in almost every area except CF and we have a deeper squad.
 

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You think that because you are projecting past City teams with the likes of KdB, Gundogan, Mahrez, peak Rodri playing key roles. Look at it objectively and ask yourself, do you see *this* City team going on those crazy runs? I would be absolutely staggered if they do. Heck, they just lost to Villa not too long ago. I think too many Arsenal fans have PTSD from City snatching the title away from us in 22/23 and 23/24 - this is *not* the same team. We are better than them in almost every area except CF and we have a deeper squad.
Therein lies the "TRUTH". This is not the same league from 3-4 years ago. Additionally, we as Arsenal fans suffer trauma from the last stages of the Wenger years that we're very uncomfortable with success. It's why every time there is a blimp on our journey the reaction is verbose.
 

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This match caused my mum (who loved him before this) to hate Xhaka.

So that's one less Arsenal fan for you Granit, make sure you treat the last remaining one well now once you remove his restraining order 👍
 
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1
Arsenal
Arsenal
W W W W W L
38 26 7 5 71:27 +44 85
2
Manchester City
Manchester City
L D W W D W
38 23 9 6 77:35 +42 78
3
Manchester United
Manchester United
W W D W W W
38 20 11 7 69:50 +19 71
4
Aston Villa
Aston Villa
W W D L L W
38 19 8 11 56:49 +7 65
5
Liverpool
Liverpool
D L D L W W
38 17 9 12 63:53 +10 60
6
Bournemouth
Bournemouth
D D W W D W
38 13 18 7 58:54 +4 57
7
Sunderland
Sunderland
W W D D L L
38 14 12 12 42:48 -6 54
8
Brighton
Brighton
L L W L W D
38 14 11 13 52:46 +6 53
9
Brentford
Brentford
D D L W L D
38 14 11 13 55:52 +3 53
10
Chelsea
Chelsea
L W D L L L
38 14 10 14 58:52 +6 52
11
Fulham
Fulham
W D L L W D
38 15 7 16 47:51 -4 52
12
Newcastle
Newcastle
L W D W L L
38 14 7 17 53:55 -2 49
13
Everton
Everton
L L D D L L
38 13 10 15 47:50 -3 49
14
Leeds
Leeds
L W D W D W
38 11 14 13 49:56 -7 47
15
Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace
L D L D L L
38 11 12 15 41:51 -10 45
16
Nottingham Forest
Nottingham Forest
D L D W W W
38 11 11 16 48:51 -3 44
17
Tottenham
Tottenham
W L D W W D
38 10 11 17 48:57 -9 41
18
West Ham
West Ham
W L L L W D
38 10 9 19 46:65 -19 39
19
Burnley
Burnley
D L D L L L
38 4 10 24 38:75 -37 22
20
Wolves
Wolves
D D L D L L
38 3 11 24 27:68 -41 20
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