Raheem Sterling

[The_Roadrunner]

Scousers are a barrel of laughs. Last summer Sterling is the next Ronaldo. This summer, the next Scott Sinclair.

 

[amirkat]

He'll be excellent for them. Feel Raheem is a little underrated at the moment due to all this transfer bollocks.

But I also feel the Ox isn't too far away from that level either.

Edit: That 200k per week sounds like Liverpool shenanigans again to save face. They're doing everything to pull the fans onside.

 

[Danskin]

Silva, Sterling and Aguero will be very dangerous for any defence.

 

[spartandre217]

He's good... Very good but not currently worth 50m.

City are hedging here... Could be a massive win for them or a mildly underwhelming signing.. There's no flopping here though

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Lol i prefer we paying 40M euros for Rues then paying 50M for Sterling,

Yeah me too, but we are not going to sign Reus.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Can't ignore his wages, though. Would wreck our whole wage structure. 200,00/week?

Can't argue with that!

 

[Livedk]

Lol i prefer we paying 40M euros for Rues then paying 50M for Sterling,

Reus is for the present - Sterling can contribute but is still very much for the future. cant really compare those two since sterling will only appreciate in value and Reus will decline.

you need both types of players in a team - otherwise you will end up like United where every player peaks at the same time - its great while it lasts but they also decline at the same time.

Given the age of the city team they did need a player like Sterling - We dont.

 

[Livedk]

Can't argue with that!

since he hasnt even agreed terms yet you can argue with that.

 

[Kyle492]

Reus has still 5 yrs before decline (unless he get's injured) and he can still improve if he plays in a better team in a better league.

Can't see sterling reaching reus actual lvl tho

 

[TheTactician]

He'll be excellent for them. Feel Raheem is a little underrated at the moment due to all this transfer bollocks.

But I also feel the Ox isn't too far away from that level either.

Edit: That 200k per week sounds like Liverpool shenanigans again to save face. They're doing everything to pull the fans onside.

Nah, he is massively overrated.

Numbers wise he is very poor for a player of his type.

His price, considering the way he is acting, is also laughable. Yes he is homegrown, but there are many players who can can beat a man and then ruin the final ball all across europe, available for a quarter of the price. Chelsea are looking like getting Pedro for around 20, Pedro has done a lot more than a guy like Sterling, and costs less than half the fee. ( I understand the homegrown factor affects this).

So in short, an attitudy player with poor end product and good dribbling shouldnt be getting sold for 50 million pounds. Liverpool have done very very well, and can easily get a better player for less money.

 

[Danskin]

Phil Thompson believes the price is right. He says the initial fee - 25M£ - was laughable. Good Lord, this guy is a *****.

 

[GDeep™]

If he played for Arsenal and wanted to join a bigger and better club like Utd or Chelsea, maybe Juventus, I too would expect Arsenal to command 40M plus for Sterling.

That's where the market is going.

 

[amirkat]

Nah, he is massively overrated.

Numbers wise he is very poor for a player of his type.

His price, considering the way he is acting, is also laughable. Yes he is homegrown, but there are many players who can can beat a man and then ruin the final ball all across europe, available for a quarter of the price. Chelsea are looking like getting Pedro for around 20, Pedro has done a lot more than a guy like Sterling, and costs less than half the fee. ( I understand the homegrown factor affects this).

So in short, an attitudy player with poor end product and good dribbling shouldnt be getting sold for 50 million pounds. Liverpool have done very very well, and can easily get a better player for less money.

His finishing needs a lot of work, but everything else is there. Dribbling is probably at elite level already.

Gotta remember he's only 20, so numbers are decent for his age. Plus, he was carrying Liverpool at certain times over the last two seasons.

We know what the deal with the price is - English tax; rival sell and young.

 

[Yorch_44]

We never would pay him 200K pero week. Maybe 80-100K.

 

[bingobob]

If he played for Arsenal and wanted to join a bigger and better club like Utd or Chelsea, maybe Juventus, I too would expect Arsenal to command 40M plus for Sterling.

That's where the market is going.

Exactly. Draxler is being touted around for 30 to 35 m Mario Gotze went for 40m euro, probably could have gone for More if he didn't have a buy out clause, we paid 16m for a reserve from Southampton, young players are expensive, factor in a high ceiling, the form already shown by Sterling and his HG status then all things considered makes sense.

What we don't know is how the fee is structured, United for instance spent 18m on Rooney rising to 30 based on appearances, trophies etc so he certainly has cost them that much. That was for what a 16 year old kid about 12 years ago inflation, the new money and the need for HG only reflects the increased price for Sterling.

 

[US_Gooner]

Despite Sterling not being worth it now, @GDeep is right: a couple of years from now, this deal will be the norm.

Only makes sense that players should get a portion of the TV + commercial largesse.

 

[Taylor Gang Gunners]

Wilshere must be worth at least £80M then .

 

[Refo]

Despite Sterling not being worth it now, @GDeep is right: a couple of years from now, this deal will be the norm.

Only makes sense that players should get a portion of the TV + commercial largesse.

Yep, this is what a lot of people don't seem to understand. You can lick your chops over all the TV money incoming, but player fees will remain relative.

 

[Bigbludfire]

from a business point of view it isnt that bad of a signing - in 3 years he could very well be worth 100+ mil - chances are he will never be worth less than 30 even if he somehow starts to decline and I am sure they got insurance in case of injury/death whatever

Debuchy over four years will very likely end up costing us a lot more money than Sterling will city or Shaw will united.

when estimating prices the expected value the player will have in the future is a major part of it

Debuchy will have no value come the end of his contract he will have been paid 70k/week = 14,5 mil in total 26.5 mil for 4 years of service

Lets say sterling actually do get an insane amount - 130k/week thats 27 mil over 4 years + 45 in transfer = 72 mil over 4 years

so if they in four years can get more than 45,5 mil for him - his 4 years would have been cheaper than Debuchys services was to us.

so the question is - will sterling be worth more than 45 mil in four years ? if so they would have gotten a pretty sweet deal and if he goes on to fulfill his potential the sky is the limit for his value down the road.

you might think it is insane to pay that kind of money for him but compared to us buying a guy like Debuchy they are doing a hell of a lot better money-wise than we are. its actually us who are spewing money by trying to be frugal.

every year we got Debuchy is more expensive than every year they got sterling.

they also paid a lot for Aguero and we paid less for Giroud - guess who made the best signing moneywise if they decided to sell. and yes considering their current values Aguero was a much better buy - even at the price they paid they will make money if they decided to sell him - we wouldnt on Giroud.

so in fact we ended up with the worst striker and paid the most for him by trying to save money. That is insane - what city did with Aguero and what they are doing with Sterling isnt.

From a business point of view, it's not that bad. But that fee represents where we're at in football, and it's a ****ing joke.

Also your argument is a bit flawed. If he signs for 200k a week (which is the strongest rumour) then it's actually around 85m over four years. This doesn't take into account his value if he gets sold on, or just runs down his contract. Also I don't know where you came to the conclusion that we're spending more money on Debuchy or "wasting" it. We've signed an experienced RB, one of the best in the league for 10m, and 5 figures a week. Nowhere near a good comparison.

 

[Bigbludfire]

Sterling is a smashing player and I think @Livedk makes some very good points. We also can't complain about the English fee when we paid 16m for a division 2 player with 20 games under his belt or paid 16 to pluke another kid from Southampton reserves.

What was the fee reported for Draxler 30 to 35m add on the English tax then 45 is probably about right.

To explore what @Livedk says if Sterling progresses the way everyone expects, and remember Wenger likes this guy and he was Liverpools best player and second best the season before, you would expect him, bar injuries, to continue to develop. Playing with Aguero and Silva should allow him to play with the freedom he had when Suarez and Sturridge where on fire. So using those assumptions he could in the future be sold for more than he cost, or he could stay for 10 years and help City win trophies, both makes his signing worth while. Look at United they invested heavily in Rooney and Ferdinand they won multiple leagues and the Champions league and now look at the revenue United bring in through sponsorship etc.

That sounds all nice and all, but he'd have to sign another contract for that to happen. Something he didn't do at his last two clubs.