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Macho

Thinks he's better than Havertz.

Country: England

Was a good read, thank you.

I find his perspective interesting, which massively contradicts the disappointment everytime his name comes up. People wish he had more of a career and usually express sadness about his untapped potential.

Meanwhile, he doesn't care. Unsure about the drinking he seems to have an issue, but i hear him about freedom.
 

Sebastes

Statbomb Merchant

Country: Sweden
Was a good read, thank you.

I find his perspective interesting, which massively contradicts the disappointment everytime his name comes up. People wish he had more of a career and usually express sadness about his untapped potential.

Meanwhile, he doesn't care. Unsure about the drinking he seems to have an issue, but i hear him about freedom.
Yeah, it sounds like he’s made some deliberate choices. As deliberate choices made when depressed/mentally unwell can be I guess. They are ofc conscious, but I know from experience that you never really have the whole picture.

At least he seems to be in a better place, surrounded by his family(?), friends and community. That’s what matters. He’s probably not entirely well thought from how I read it. But he’s sort of safe or whatnot.

I think the “outside” world doesn’t quite understand this perspective of footballers feeling alone and disconnected and sometimes subsequently becoming depressed. It might not even be as much of a change and loneliness as the South Americans experience from being halfway around the world and the clash of cultures (especially for the ones coming from poor circumstances). Look at Saliba, who (reportedly?) wanted to be close to his family in France.

Us fans feel that all footballers are privileged and don’t have the right to be miserable. I would guess a lot of people are even right down offended by the notion.

And we don’t take these kind of circumstances into account when judging players. Pépé comes to mind. His trajectory from being one of our better players (in a not so great team, admittedly) to pretty much falling into oblivion in a matter of years is telling. He didn’t just lose his ability. He didn’t just become ****. And he wasn’t a purple patch player either who serendipitously had a couple of good years.

Or take someone like Dele Alli. We as Arsenal fans can, and should, have a lot of damning opinions about Sp**s players, but no one performs like he did for a few years in the PL without ability.

The mental part plays such a ****ing big role in all aspects of life for all people. Some have greater fortitude, some have better support systems, but everyone’s performance is more or less affected, usually the former, if we’re not in a good place mentally. No matter what we do.
 

Sebastes

Statbomb Merchant

Country: Sweden
Yeah, it sounds like he’s made some deliberate choices. As deliberate choices made when depressed/mentally unwell can be I guess. They are ofc conscious, but I know from experience that you never really have the whole picture.

At least he seems to be in a better place, surrounded by his family(?), friends and community. That’s what matters. He’s probably not entirely well thought from how I read it. But he’s sort of safe or whatnot.

I think the “outside” world doesn’t quite understand this perspective of footballers feeling alone and disconnected and sometimes subsequently becoming depressed. It might not even be as much of a change and loneliness as the South Americans experience from being halfway around the world and the clash of cultures (especially for the ones coming from poor circumstances). Look at Saliba, who (reportedly?) wanted to be close to his family in France.

Us fans feel that all footballers are privileged and don’t have the right to be miserable. I would guess a lot of people are even right down offended by the notion.

And we don’t take these kind of circumstances into account when judging players. Pépé comes to mind. His trajectory from being one of our better players (in a not so great team, admittedly) to pretty much falling into oblivion in a matter of years is telling. He didn’t just lose his ability. He didn’t just become ****. And he wasn’t a purple patch player either who serendipitously had a couple of good years.

Or take someone like Dele Alli. We as Arsenal fans can, and should, have a lot of damning opinions about Sp**s players, but no one performs like he did for a few years in the PL without ability.

The mental part plays such a ****ing big role in all aspects of life for all people. Some have greater fortitude, some have better support systems, but everyone’s performance is more or less affected, usually the former, if we’re not in a good place mentally. No matter what we do.
I guess how a club manages these things really comes down to how good leaders (not coaches, not managers, not directors) they have.
 

albakos

Arséne Wenger: "I will miss you"
Administrator

Country: Kosova

Player:Saka

Is this when you call in some wicca witch ? @albakos you got some ancient ritual to help out old Ian here?
:lol: Typical Holloway

It may also be cursed due to many swear words heard 24/7 in the stadium's vicinity at the Swindon Magic Roundabout.

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Dokaka

Gunner come out of the closet any day now…


This is great, recommend watching this if you're genuinely curious about the mentality of footballers etc. Touches on things like transfer fees weighing you down, attacking instincts and more.
 

Arsenal Quotes

This is a big moment of happiness...we waited a long time for this and the happiness is linked sometimes with the suffering, and the time that you have to wait....this was more important than all the other (trophies) we have twice won the double, but were not under pressure then like we were today.

Arsène Wenger, on winning the 2014 FA Cup
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