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Reiss Nelson (Loan)

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by American_Gooner, Dec 24, 2019.

  1. Let's play Aubamawang

    Let's play Aubamawang Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't let him go on loan til at least January. With EL we should have plenty of games for him. Plus training with the likes of Willian every day has got to be better for his development than training at the likes of Fulham et al.
     
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  2. Dutch D

    Dutch D Well-Known Member

    Agree, I'm not keen on a loan in the current situation. If Willian is the only attacking addition and Laca is indeed sold, there will be plenty of opportunities for him here. He showed some brightness in his latest performances. Would probably be good for his confidence to stay now. It will be a strange season in which we need to rotate a lot due to the short break. Shame for him the PL reverted back to 3 subs.

    If we do loan it should be to a positive attacking side in the PL. Leeds seems like a contender, perhaps Watford? Was quite impressed with them whenever I saw them last season.
     
  3. Fewtch

    Fewtch Ozil at 10 And Emery Out

    Not sure I understand bro but yh, it’s a disgrace.
     
  4. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    I would genuinely send him to a club with a large fan base I.e. Leeds, Villa, Newcastle or even one of the Old Firm or keep him close i.e. Palace or Fulham.

    Consistent football will either raise his value and confidence or show us that he isn't ready/good enough.

    Not sure he can contribute much here next season, but there's definitely a player in there.
     
  5. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Curious. What’s your thinking here?

    Isn’t the main thing that he plays for the right manager? I.e that plays attacking football and trusts young players?
     
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  6. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Nelson won't go to turkey loan or permanent he still have career ahead of him.
     
  7. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    To play with a bit of pressure. I know top level football is pressure, but performing infront of 50,000 at St. James's is far different to playing in front of 14,000 for Bournemouth.

    If you can get both the right style of play and pressure level that's ideal. Would Nelson playing for say Steve Bruce week in, week out in The Premier League be worse than playing positive football as part of Fulham's relegation scrap with Scott Parker?

    Newcastle is a bad example though as they actually have two quality wide men already.
     
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  8. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Would prefer him to play without pressure, remind himself that he's actually good at football then come back with belief in his own ability. Pressure +lack of confidence has resulted in the timid Reiss we've seen all season.
     
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  9. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    That’s my concern.

    I think it’s a good point though and I agree he should go somewhere where there’s a bit of pressure.

    @MutableEarth will have a better view than me but Reiss strikes me as a player who’d benefit most from an environment where he’s allowed to be adventurous and make mistakes, as compared to someone like Saka, he plays a little too much within himself.

    He has the talent to be a top level player if he can develop physically and mentally.
     
  10. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    The other side of big crowds could be becoming loved by a fan base. Although not getting sufficient minutes, Nketiah seemed to be well liked by Leeds fans.

    Our home atmosphere is toxic, I can assume that other clubs fans won't boo bad touches, lazy passes or going in at HT a goal down like happens so often at The Emirates.

    I think the likelihood is that Nelson stays though with Martinelli' injury and rumours of Willian playing centrally.
     
  11. AndStill

    AndStill Active Member

    I normally hype youngsters up as much as the next but ive never seen much with Nelson to put him as our brightest prospect. I clearly didn't see him at youth level but I've seen enough at senior level to know that he hasn't successfully transitioned yet to senior football.

    A loan with consistent football will do his confidence so much good.
     
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  12. MutableEarth

    MutableEarth Bloody awesome NSFW avatars Trusted

    Yes, as @Trilly said, he needs to be reminded that he is actually a very talented player. I think Nelson definitely needs to be put in a position where he has license to take risks and be more imaginative in his play, that's often where he's thrived. He's normally a very flamboyant player who can score a lot of goals and be a consistent threat in the final 3rd - but as he developed in the U23s, he effectively became the creative hub of that team - playing often at #10 and LW, dominating the ball and taking plenty of touches. The season we won the U23 league, he scored 12 goals, despite not playing all the games. He is someone that has goals in him and does have creative ability aswell.

    I think it's not so much pressure that he should avoid, but rather he needs to be given the confidence and a prominent role to give him more impetus IMO. Not sure what team would offer that but I think he could get that in the PL. Think he'd be good for West Ham or Fulham. Maybe Palace but they might not trust him as much.
     
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  13. CanadianGooner1608

    CanadianGooner1608 Well-Known Member

    If we take into account what Sterling and Sané said about how Arteta helped their development, I feel like keeping Reiss around would help him a lot more than a loan.
    Reiss just needs something to click for him. I'm not sure what the "something" is, but everytime I watch him play I can feel how close he is to getting it.
    Once/If it unlocks, he might turn into a monster.
     
  14. MutableEarth

    MutableEarth Bloody awesome NSFW avatars Trusted

    I agree, he's always on the cusp without quite going over it. The problem is, I think he needs far more football than he's getting. That's the catch 22.
     
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  15. CanadianGooner1608

    CanadianGooner1608 Well-Known Member

    I admittedly have a soft spot for the kid. If it's frustrating for us, I can't imagine how it must feel for him.

    I agree with you, he needs gametime and guidance. The issue is he could get regular gametime elsewhere, but as far as guidance goes, there is nobody I'd trust more than our manager.

    It's a tricky one for sure. Not sure which is the best direction for him, I just hope we get to see him at his best.
     
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  16. GoonerJeeves

    GoonerJeeves Up The Terriers Trusted

    Why Leeds? To warm the bench? Have we learnt nothing?
     
  17. Jakarta

    Jakarta Well-Known Member

    Loan to a prem side? Smh this guy isn’t at that level yet.

    He needs a loan to the championship at a team where he will get consistent minutes.
     
  18. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    Started games in The Premier League and Bundesliga. Premier League loan is logical. It would be a backwards step joining a Championship team.
     
  19. juice man

    juice man Well-Known Member

    Difficult call. He needs more game time, and strong preference of course is to keep him in the PL. However, don't think he gets significant game time on loan at many PL sides. Would rather keep him than send him to the Championship.
     
  20. Leo_ense_

    Leo_ense_ Unknown Member

    I’m sure he’s talented but he lacks the bollocks that Saka/Martinelli have. They seized opportunities with both hands, Reiss had a massive chance with Iwobi/Mikhi gone last summer but he didn’t show anything. A loan is probably the best idea but I’m not convinced.
     
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