Reiss Nelson (Out)

[14Henry]

The best possible outcome for everyone would be for Reiss to sign and compete with Martinelli, Nketiah to be sold with Trossard backing up Jesus and us signing a left footed RW as backup or competition to Saka.

Wouldn't it be better to sign a different style of striker and use either Martinelli/Jesus/Trossard/Nelson on the right?

We have players who could play RW (albeit its not their best position) however we haven't got an alternative option at 9 if the intricate stuff isn't working.

 

[Sebastes]

Wouldn't it be better to sign a different style of striker and use either Martinelli/Jesus/Trossard/Nelson on the right?

We have players who could play RW (albeit it’s not their best position) however we haven't got an alternative option at 9 if the intricate stuff isn't working.

Yeah I think I take some things for granted in saying that, for example that Osimhen isn’t attainable for us and also that I’d think we should maybe move Trossard on and go for a striker next summer.

Ofc it’d be nice to have something of a plan B, but if we sign a striker I’d still like it to be someone who can do similar stuff as Jesus. If he’s out for an extended period like he was this year we shouldn’t have to change our game too much, because of consistency and learning patterns etc. Osimhen being the exception to this.

Trossard played very well as false 9 and apart from Osimhen I only really think I’d want Toney right now. I’d prefer to see how guys like Kolo Muani and Højlund kick on and maintain form and develop respectively.

I think we definitely need a left footed RW as Saka backup.

So come August have Martinelli, Nelson, Jesus, Trossard, Saka and Kudus/Kulu/Diaby/Asensio. Maybe Toney in January, otherwise whoever looks best over the season from others mentioned.

 

[MutableEarth]

Yeah I think I take some things for granted in saying that, for example that Osimhen isn’t attainable for us and also that I’d think we should maybe move Trossard on and go for a striker next summer.

Ofc it’d be nice to have something of a plan B, but if we sign a striker I’d still like it to be someone who can do similar stuff as Jesus. If he’s out for an extended period like he was this year we shouldn’t have to change our game too much, because of consistency and learning patterns etc. Osimhen being the exception to this.

Trossard played very well as false 9 and apart from Osimhen I only really think I’d want Toney right now. I’d prefer to see how guys like Kolo Muani and Højlund kick on and maintain form and develop respectively.

I think we definitely need a left footed RW as Saka backup.

So come August have Martinelli, Nelson, Jesus, Trossard, Saka and Kudus/Kulu/Diaby/Asensio. Maybe Toney in January, otherwise whoever looks best over the season from others mentioned.

Feel the same re striker. None of the targets out there are good enough for me to justify signing them just to have a plan B. Unless we take a punt at somebody who can offer elements of plan A but they lack experience, we're gonna be making significant sacrifices. I'm not sold on these options at all yet.

 

[BenTal]

To be honest after seeing Antony Sancho and Mudryk I'd pass spending big on wingers who we ain't sure about them. Even this Diaby who we strongly linked with he doesn't worth 60M.

That's a great point. Diaz is the only winger who works out. The rest are all failures.

 

[GoonerJeeves]

Not sure what to think of this. I know @MutableEarth rates Nelson highly, but I'm not sure this a good decision for him. He really needs to play week in week out, and I'm not sure he'll get that at Arsenal.

 

[Sanchez11]

If it means we go massive on midfield fine, otherwise nah not impressed tbh.

 

[Rasmi]

Not sure what to think of this. I know @MutableEarth rates Nelson highly, but I'm not sure this a good decision for him. He really needs to play week in week out, and I'm not sure he'll get that at Arsenal.

This is nketiah last year but worse. The club can’t bother looking for someone else and just give him huge wage. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is on 80-90k now

 

[Genericmans]

Not sure what to think of this. I know @MutableEarth rates Nelson highly, but I'm not sure this a good decision for him. He really needs to play week in week out, and I'm not sure he'll get that at Arsenal.

If he signs it bodes well though? I don't see someone in his position signing anything without really heavyhanded guarantees that there is faith/gametime waiting for him?

 

[GoonerJeeves]

If he signs it bodes well though? I don't see someone in his position signing anything without really heavyhanded guarantees that there is faith/gametime waiting for him?

You'd think it means we'll give him opportunities. Granted, there will be a lot of games next season. Time will tell.

 

[Blankety Blank]

Im sure Reiss will get more minutes next season if he stays.

Arteta believes in him.
I guess it's down to Reiss & how much money his agent wants. He could go to a smaller club to play more. However he could stay where he is happy.

He was unlucky with injuries last season.

At the end of the day if he stays imho it's down to him to prove he is good enough to be challenging Saks & Nelli.

That's the level.

An injury or suspension to either & things open up as he can do a job both sides imo .

 

[drippin]

I'm not sure why people worry so much what is best for Nelson. Aren't we Arsenal fans, and not only certain players?

What's best for Arsenal, is imo to get him extended. He has shown good promise now in recent years, was one of the most talented youngsters ever, and there are other areas to use the money for. Such a talented player who can play LW, AMF and RW, are quite expensive and there are no promises. Look at Antony, Sancho and Mudryk from recent windows. It has looked for some time that Nelson will be a late bloomer mostly because of mental things like confidence etc.

Nelson has not agreed to some earlier contract proposals it seems, so surely he will get what he wants monetarily and otherwise, or about so. If he doesn't claim his talent, he will be sold and then get his chance elsewhere in a couple of years, while earning pretty big money. Clearly he wants to stay if he extends. And he seems a proper Arsenal lad, so might also want the club to get a fee from him as a bonus if things don't work out.

 

[GoonerJeeves]

I'm not sure why people worry so much what is best for Nelson. Aren't we Arsenal fans, and not only certain players?

What's best for Arsenal, is imo to get him extended.

Well, I don't think it is so strange to try to look at a deal from both perspectives, the player and the club. For the club, I agree this is a good decision, for the player I'm not so sure.

If the player takes a decision where you think it is not in his interest, it is natural to try to understand why he takes the decision he takes. The underlying causes might not be to the club's advantage. Does Nelson signing for Arsenal signal a lack of ambition? Does it mark a lack of confidence and belief in ability? Is the player too comfortable at the club?

That could be fair questions to ask. Hopefully, the player answers those questions with top performances on the pitch!

 

[Rasmi]

Well, I don't think it is so strange to try to look at a deal from both perspectives, the player and the club. For the club, I agree this is a good decision, for the player I'm not so sure.

If the player takes a decision where you think it is not in his interest, it is natural to try to understand why he takes the decision he takes. The underlying causes might not be to the club's advantage. Does Nelson signing for Arsenal signal a lack of ambition? Does it mark a lack of confidence and belief in ability? Is the player too comfortable at the club?

That could be fair questions to ask. Hopefully, the player answers those questions with top performances on the pitch!

And if you give him huge contract, you will struggle to move him on. This is a player who has done very little outside of flashes here and there. The manager don’t really rate him based on loaning him out while using younger players and hardly using him. Suddenly we gonna believe he will be integral part of the season? All it means is saka will be run to the ground next seas

 

[Batman]

I'm not sure why people worry so much what is best for Nelson. Aren't we Arsenal fans, and not only certain players?

What's best for Arsenal, is imo to get him extended. He has shown good promise now in recent years, was one of the most talented youngsters ever, and there are other areas to use the money for. Such a talented player who can play LW, AMF and RW, are quite expensive and there are no promises. Look at Antony, Sancho and Mudryk from recent windows. It has looked for some time that Nelson will be a late bloomer mostly because of mental things like confidence etc.

Nelson has not agreed to some earlier contract proposals it seems, so surely he will get what he wants monetarily and otherwise, or about so. If he doesn't claim his talent, he will be sold and then get his chance elsewhere in a couple of years, while earning pretty big money. Clearly he wants to stay if he extends. And he seems a proper Arsenal lad, so might also want the club to get a fee from him as a bonus if things don't work out.

A team is made up of players, not robots(except the one at City). It is natural to care about them as individuals rather than just cogs in a machine. On a basic human level, I hate to see anyone waste their potential even if it benefits me.

 

[drippin]

Well, I don't think it is so strange to try to look at a deal from both perspectives, the player and the club. For the club, I agree this is a good decision, for the player I'm not so sure.

If the player takes a decision where you think it is not in his interest, it is natural to try to understand why he takes the decision he takes. The underlying causes might not be to the club's advantage. Does Nelson signing for Arsenal signal a lack of ambition? Does it mark a lack of confidence and belief in ability? Is the player too comfortable at the club?

That could be fair questions to ask. Hopefully, the player answers those questions with top performances on the pitch!

Sure, but personally I'm still mostly interested in Arsenal's benefit rather than any player. Even if the player is own youth, it's only a minor thought.

Arsenal needs to be ruthless at this point after ages out of UCL. Of course you can't extend him by lying to him about what is his role etc. That will cause problems and I expect the leadership to understand that. If he stays, he will be compensated properly monetarily, and given enough chances.

Nelson extending doesn't necessarily relate to ambition, as personally I'd like to mostly invest in a very good midfield at this point. FFP is real. The current attack scored a lot already this season, and will likely only improve after playing more together and getting closer to their prime years.

Buying talented players like ESR or Nelson will cost tens of millions with no guarantees.

 

[6gunner]

The best possible outcome for everyone would be for Reiss to sign and compete with Martinelli, Nketiah to be sold with Trossard backing up Jesus and us signing a left footed RW as backup or competition to Saka.

Exactly. Would like to keep Smith Rowe to compete with him over there as well. Would love a dribbley sprinter type right wing that can run in behind to provide a different option on that side

 

[Mudi]

This is not good. I wanted him leaving such was we could go for a RW but with him staying we may not get another winger this transfer period.

 

[CaseUteinberger]

Happy of he stays. Quality player. Just needs more game time. Felt when he came on he was always lively. Plus he is one of ours. So all good!

 

[ASAP Berg]

Very happy with this. I could see him doing absolute madness with Enciso and Mitoma if he had moved to Brighton.

 

[OnlyOne]

He’s literally injured again.