Riccardo Calafiori: Aurafiore

[OnlyOne]

What do you call Jorginho (or Zinchenko) if you think Calafiori is "very very slow"? You put yourself in a corner with that silly statement.

"Counts for nothing." You're talking about your opinions mate. You have nothing, but a distorted view and will be proven wrong. He is not very very slow.

Even in that Calafiori struggles defensively. He has already played against two fast top attacks after just joining and coming back from a niggle. He will only get better.

I also call them slow? wtf is this?

 

[drippin]

When did I say that Arteta has avoided buying tall and fast players?

I made a point about Arteta's high line and players he buys for it. And you ignored it, and went after personal insults.

Not sure what this question even is, as I haven't said you have said so?

Are all these tall and fast players really slow with their acceleration?…which is the only scenario which proves your point and disproves mine.

I ask again, do you think Calafiori is "very very slow", which is what this argument started with against OnlyOne. And me arguing with that seemed raise people saying top speed doesn't matter.

I also asked you if you think Calafiori's acceleration is "very very slow" in your opinion. You didn't answer that either.

You can choose if you really want to defend OnlyOne's opinion or not.

You can take the example of Zinchenko. He actually has had better acceleration than top speed in my opinion. And you can see that Arteta tried to replace him last season already with Timber.

I would have assumed everyone assumes that everyone knows that top speed and acceleration both matter. Naturally saying Calafiori is "very very slow" sounds like he is very very slow in combined acceleration and top speed.

 

[drippin]

I also call them slow? wtf is this?

Okay. So to recap, you think Calafiori, Zinchenko and Jorginho are all equally "very very slow"?

 

[grange]

 

[OnlyOne]

Okay. So to recap, you think Calafiori, Zinchenko and Jorginho are all equally "very very slow"?

Yeah, is that clear enough?

 

[lomekian]

He's not the quickest in the first two strides, but once he gets moving he's a hard man to stop going forward or back. Hakimi is like greased bloody lightning though, and if he could defend he'd still be at Madrid.

 

[Blankety Blank]

I also call them slow? wtf is this?

It's all relative
Roberto Holding was slow.
Like watching in Slo Mo bro.

Tony Adams one of our greatest defenders ever didn't have pace.

None of our current defenders are particularly slow imho.

 

[drippin]

Yeah, is that clear enough?

Sure. Like I said, you have your distorted view and will be proven wrong. There is simply no way Jorginho and Calafiori are equally "very very slow".

Everyone with eyes knows that, but you do you with your doubling down of silly statements.

 

[OnlyOne]

It's all relative
Roberto Holding was slow.
Like watching in Slo Mo bro.

Tony Adams one of our greatest defenders ever didn't have pace.

None of our current defenders are particularly slow imho.

Doesn’t mean he’s not great but you look at White and Timber, physically they’re more suited to a dynamic full back because they’re quick of the mark, more agile and better acceleration, same with Ake. Calafiori’s profile is more CB which is why he’s struggle with pace atm as he’s very slow.

He’s new to the league, got to remember he only played around 23 senior games in Italy, it’s a big step up to the Pl.

 

[drippin]

Calafiori’s profile is more CB which is why he’s struggle with pace atm as he’s very slow.

It's funny that he has played his whole youth career mostly in wrong position as leftback or wingback, and only last year played a lot as a CB, if that's his profile.

Actually I think Timber and White both have played mostly CB in their careers, while Calafiori mostly fullback until last year.

Naturally his injury slowed him down a bit. But we also have to remember that he just came back from an injury, and is trying to spare himself with all the defender injuries and his history with injuries. We haven't seen his best physically yet.

 

[Bagels]

Sure. Like I said, you have your distorted view and will be proven wrong. There is simply no way Jorginho and Calafiori are equally "very very slow".

Everyone with eyes knows that, but you do you with your doubling down of silly statements.

What source do you have for this?

 

[drippin]

What source do you have for this?

It's stated in the post, but do you have them?

Source:

 

[Bagels]

It's stated in the post, but do you have them?

Source:

Quality response tbf

But @A_G eyes weren’t a sufficient source for you when he was discussing players returning from ACL. Why are your eyes a sufficient source?

 

[Blankety Blank]

Doesn’t mean he’s not great but you look at White and Timber, physically they’re more suited to a dynamic full back because they’re quick of the mark, more agile and better acceleration, same with Ake. Calafiori’s profile is more CB which is why he’s struggle with pace atm as he’s very slow.

He’s new to the league, got to remember he only played around 23 senior games in Italy, it’s a big step up to the Pl.

It's a trade off having 4 big defenders. The question is do the pros outweigh the cons. I think they do & Cali at LB will have far more upside than downside.

People may not like it now but Zinny at LB despite his lack of height & not being particularly pacy was a big reason we got back to top 4 & has way more upside than downside apart from in certain games.

Someone like Nuno Tavares was a rapid fullback but playing him unfortunately had more downside & wouldn't imho have got us back to top 4.

It's not all about electric pace.
If it was Adama Traore would be at a top club.

Would White or Timber have kept up with Hakimi? They may have done a bit better, perhaps Jurrien could have got closer?
But my honest answer.
I doubt it.

 

[drippin]

Quality response tbf

But @A_G eyes weren’t a sufficient source for you when he was discussing players returning from ACL. Why are your eyes a sufficient source?

My post with the questions was intentional annoying questions which reflected the points I was going for. I knew he won't find any sources for his claims. My post was in part a joke.

And in the following posts I showed with examples that his strict claims are false. Timber played well already 5 months ago, so now after over a year since his injury, even by A__G's claim, he is back to his normal level.

 

[Sanchez11]

Is he better than Zinny? Hell yeah. Too much crying about pace, stay humble!

 

[OnlyOne]

It's funny that he has played his whole youth career mostly in wrong position as leftback or wingback, and only last year played a lot as a CB, if that's his profile.

Actually I think Timber and White both have played mostly CB in their careers, while Calafiori mostly fullback until last year.

Naturally his injury slowed him down a bit. But we also have to remember that he just came back from an injury, and is trying to spare himself with all the defender injuries and his history with injuries. We haven't seen his best physically yet.

Don’t look at where they played, look at the physical and athletic profiles of each. That’s your first mistake.

 

[El Duderino]

 

[drippin]

Don’t look at where they played, look at the physical and athletic profiles of each. That’s your first mistake.

I just added information. Timber is fastest, White is second and Calafiori slowest of the bunch.

The difference between White and Calafiori isn't very big though. Or should I say very very big?

Anyway, we'll see when Calafiori has been without injuries for a longer period and adjusted to the physicality of the league.

 

[Farzad]

Cala is a monster aerially i doubt his detractors think he is not a massive upgrade on Zinny. Zinny was the point where every team tried to attack last season and or expose on crosses. So defensively he is a big upgrade.

In attack he is unlucky not to score 2 goals and created a 3rd goal. He revitalized Martinelli and the left side of attack. So again in attack a big upgrade.



The people knocking him are doing it really to be contrarian and get attention. Or in the alternate are bozos who don’t know ball.