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Rob Holding: I'm Sorry He Didn't Cost £55 Million

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Marjorie, Aug 18, 2020.

  1. TornadoTed

    TornadoTed Well-Known Member

    He is a decent player, I like him a lot. Because passing isn't his strongest attribute and Mikel seems to want a left footed player he is fighting for 5th choice with Mavropanos and Chambers. After next summer I think the 4 ahead of them will be,

    ? & Saliba for the right side
    Gabriel & Mari for the left side

    Who stays here probably depends on their ambition (lack of) and willingness to be a bit part player. Incidentally I would choose Holding over the other 2 if he is ok with a squad role.
     
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  2. BigPoppaPump

    BigPoppaPump Contrarian

    How can you say Holding is 5th choice when he's our first choice CB right now, no way Mari or Saliba are starting over him :lol: who tf is ?, we don't need more CBs.
     
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  3. TornadoTed

    TornadoTed Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty certain that if Gabriel couldn't play or was rested and Mari was fit Mikel would play him on the left of defence over Holding.

    I also think we will definitely go for another defender next summer after we lose Mustafi, Sokratis and Luiz. I think 2 of Chambers, Holding and Mavro leave also leaving us with 4 central defenders.

    I maintain that whoever stays out of Holding, Chambers and Mavro will fight it out for backup right sided central defender/5th choice with Saliba. Maybe Holding will be backup and Saliba 5th choice if he improves with his feet.
     
  4. BigPoppaPump

    BigPoppaPump Contrarian

    Mari's a bum no way he's starting over Holding, his transfer was a Kia/Raul scam. Our main 3 CB's are Luiz, Gabriel and Holding, the rest are surplus to requirements.
     
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  5. Macho

    Macho Well-Known Member Trusted

    Prior to his injury I actually do think Mari was ahead of Holding, he is closer to what Arteta would want. Mustafi was definitely ahead of Rob too.

    Holding may have played his way up the pecking order though, we will have to wait and see when they are all available.
     
  6. TornadoTed

    TornadoTed Well-Known Member

    Tim Vickery, one of the most respected authorities on South American football considered Mari the 2nd best defender on the continent. He may turn out to be a bum but surely an endorsement like that warrants giving him 20-30 games before judging him rather than the 2 he has played.

    How is Saliba, a £30m teenager, considered one of the hottest prospects in World football surplus to requirements?

    Of course I don't have a crystal ball but I would put money on a new signing, Gabriel, Saliba, Mari and one of Holding/Chambers/Mavro being our 5 senior defenders at the start of the 2021-2022 season. For what it is worth if I am right I hope it is Holding who stays, I think he is better than Chambers and Mavro.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2020
  7. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    Think Holding is a decent squad option. Not seeing him make silly errors and he is adequate with his head. Plus he is decent with his short passing. While we offload defenders over the next year he can stay for now.
     
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  8. boonthegoon

    boonthegoon Well-Known Member

    out for 3-4 weeks

    sigh just as he was playing well from start of season
     
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  9. Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility

    Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility Not a Closet Spurs Fan

    Was coming tbf, played too many games recently. Should be back after the next break.
     
  10. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character Trusted

    Another player held back by injuries. Anytime he seems to be gaining momentum or form up steps an injury to put him back. 1 step forward 2 steps back.
     
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  11. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Got Swerved By Gallas Trusted

    Same with Chambers.

    Honestly it’s so frustrating because we sign these guys and 4-5 years later we still don’t know if they’ll be good enough because they’re constantly getting injured.
     
  12. BigPoppaPump

    BigPoppaPump Contrarian

    Those ACL injuries probably mean they'll never be the same, although Bellerin seems fine from them but he was never particularly injury prone.
     
  13. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    Could probably get 20m for him in one of the next two windows.
     
  14. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Got Swerved By Gallas Trusted

    Feels like a lottery with ACL injuries.

    Sometimes they don’t lose a step but other times they’re barely the same player.
     
  15. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    no surprise really him and Chambers will never be at top clubs because they injury prone they can't go whole season without going injured for 1-2 months or even more.
     
  16. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    Thought we'd be able to shift him to Leeds, Villa or Newcastle, but not sure any of those teams need him now. The likes of Everton, Wolves and Leicester have better. Feel like we've missed the opportunity. Holding might be here to stay :(

    Chambers could always go back to Southampton, doubt he'd be interested in Fulham.
     
  17. BigPoppaPump

    BigPoppaPump Contrarian

    Have we won a game since his injury?
     
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  18. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    Not sure but we got battered by Liverpool with him at CB, then beat Sheffield United without him. Since, we've ship in 1 goal a game.

    Hope this helps.
     
  19. BigPoppaPump

    BigPoppaPump Contrarian

    Well obviously it doesn't help since you never answered my quesiton.
     
  20. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    Yes, we have won a Premier League game since the last time Holding started.

    Hope this helps.
     

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