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Ryan Fraser
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What have those two got to do with anything? At this point Nelson is miles away from the first team and ESR probably stays where he is on loan for another season.
pigge
#Pigge #Equality
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Esr has played 0 games though. Why loan him there again
lamby22
It's Not Lupus
Country: Scotland
Charlie Nic is the reason I started supporting Arsenal all those years ago. It didn't work out that well for him here but he did score those 2 goals at Wembley to win us the cup.
He was injured when he went there and has been injured ever since. I think we did it with a view to him settling in for a bit and then having the full year there. Leipzig seem keen to keep him for longer as well.
pigge
#Pigge #Equality
Player:Martinelli
Interesting. Hope it works out!
Slartibartfast
CIES Loyalist
He was Arsenal's player of the year one season and was about midway through the club's 50 greatest players list, but it's true he never really fulfilled his potential. His lifestyle may have had something to do with that. Charlie loved the bright lights and the big city. I probably couldn't have resisted the temptations either.
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lucky7
Active Member
Winger with more goal contributions than Fraser this season (PL)
Hazard, Salah, Sterling, Son, Firmino
Now let's look at production relative to the offensive strength of each of the teams they play for (% of goal contribution).
Hazard 48%
Fraser 43%
Zaha 35%
Salah 33%
Sterling 29%
Son 28%
Firmino 24%
Obviously this wouldn't represent a direct increase at Arsenal, but it shows his performance relative to the quality of his team is exceptional. The same types of arguments have made Zaha's valuation sky rocket.
Hazard, Salah, Sterling, Son, Firmino
Now let's look at production relative to the offensive strength of each of the teams they play for (% of goal contribution).
Hazard 48%
Fraser 43%
Zaha 35%
Salah 33%
Sterling 29%
Son 28%
Firmino 24%
Obviously this wouldn't represent a direct increase at Arsenal, but it shows his performance relative to the quality of his team is exceptional. The same types of arguments have made Zaha's valuation sky rocket.
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say yes
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If this lad was Nigerian he’d be worth £50m.
Been a fan of Fraser for the last couple of seasons. Didn't have the output last season but he's always very dangerous - quick and incisive dribbler, particularly on the counter. This is type of smart signing Liverpool would make - someone who knows the PL and can give us an extra dimension without the weight of being a big name signing.
My only caveat is that I'd like to see more of Nelson and other youngsters we already have in the team, but hopefully we have decent loans lined up for them where they play regularly until they're deemed ready to come back. If that happens, I'm not against bringing in a Fraser.
My only caveat is that I'd like to see more of Nelson and other youngsters we already have in the team, but hopefully we have decent loans lined up for them where they play regularly until they're deemed ready to come back. If that happens, I'm not against bringing in a Fraser.
Slartibartfast
CIES Loyalist
I think loans are a better option for Reiss Nelson and some others. They still need some seasoning. But I concur with your assessment. Fraser can step right in and provide Arsenal with exactly what they need at an affordable price.
Or if he were English. Scottish players get no love these days.
samshere
Why so serieuse?
I'dlove Ryan Fraser here, been following him since Wilshere moved there for the loan and I was always confusing the two.
HBL
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If we can get him for around the £20m mark I think this is definitely worth it. Don't think his finishing is great but certainly causes problems for defenders, rapid and has a good work rate. I don't see much downside with this if we can get him on the cheap.
Feel like he's one of those who are good midtable players, but fails to take the step up at a bigger club. He's a good player, but never really felt he was top club material unlike Brooks.
Not totally opposed though, if the fee is reasonable it might be worth the gamble, but hopefully he won't be the only winger in that case.
Not totally opposed though, if the fee is reasonable it might be worth the gamble, but hopefully he won't be the only winger in that case.
Wizzard
Active Member
Like Sadio Mane for example? He is 2 goals or assists away from Manes last year at Soton, and they were an arguably better team back then, then Bournemouth are now.
I think Fraser could develope into a star at the right club. Everytime we played him, he was a pain in the arse.
Torreira came from midtable Club in Italy but he preformed well with us i think fraser style suit an offensive team as us
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That's definitely the main risk with signings like this, you never know how these guys will do. Mane was a bit younger when he was doing well at Southampton, so you felt there was still some potential there. Even a guy like Mahrez who was POTY struggled to make the jump, whereas Danny Drinkwater has fallen off completely.
Best case scenario would be Fraser ending up as a solid squad player like Lallana, who was a similar age when he joined Liverpol.
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Surely a better case scenario would be Fraser taking it up another notch and becoming a world class winger for Arsenal?
Best case scenario isn't him becoming a good squad player.
