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Abit of snobbery going on in this thread. We are not exactly willing to spend 200m in one window are we.
That's definitely the main risk with signings like this, you never know how these guys will do. Mane was a bit younger when he was doing well at Southampton, so you felt there was still some potential there. Even a guy like Mahrez who was POTY struggled to make the jump, whereas Danny Drinkwater has fallen off completely.
Best case scenario would be Fraser ending up as a solid squad player like Lallana, who was a similar age when he joined Liverpol.
I think realistically it's the best we can hope for. I'm actually fine with this signing as a squad player, but expecting him to get close to WC level is a big ask imo. Maybe if he was a few years younger like Mane when he moved, but at 25 I don't know that he'll improve dramatically from his current level.Surely a better case scenario would be Fraser taking it up another notch and becoming a world class winger for Arsenal?
Best case scenario isn't him becoming a good squad player.
I think realistically it's the best we can hope for. I'm actually fine with this signing as a squad player, but expecting him to get close to WC level is a big ask imo. Maybe if he was a few years younger like Mane when he moved, but at 25 I don't know that he'll improve dramatically from his current level.
I think realistically it's the best we can hope for. I'm actually fine with this signing as a squad player, but expecting him to get close to WC level is a big ask imo. Maybe if he was a few years younger like Mane when he moved, but at 25 I don't know that he'll improve dramatically from his current level.
None of this is at odds with anything I've said in this thread.I would also argue that not every player, even in the starting lineup, has to be world class. I suppose the term world class is thrown around far too easily these days, but for me even Manchester City has only a handful who would qualify. If Ryan Fraser can come to Arsenal and do a solid job on the wing, work hard, be consistent, provide a threat, score a few goals, help his teammates score a few more, do the defensive work and help to contribute to the spirit and attitude of the team, that's enough. These are exactly the types of signings that have made Arsenal successful through the years.
I suppose the transfer market has been skewed in recent years by hype and money, but sometimes you just need some players who can do a job.
Mane is a way bigger talent though. basically the same amount of goals in his first two seasons in PL than fraiser has in his entire career.Mane was 24 when he went to Pool, hardly a massive difference.
Sane is a way bigger talent though. basically the same amount of goals in his first two seasons in PL than fraiser has in his entire career.
Meant Mane. Gotta edit that !He plays for city tho, so more chances for end product. The fact he plays for bournemouth makes it impressive. That being said, it doesnt mean he would automatically replicate this in arsenal.
Tiresome stuff from some of you. Calling people snobs, comparing Fraser to players who at 20/21 were rated amongst the elite of their age group.
Never saw one post on here rating Fraser before we were linked with him.
Tiresome stuff from some of you. Calling people snobs, comparing Fraser to players who at 20/21 were rated amongst the elite of their age group.
Never saw one post on here rating Fraser before we were linked with him.
Mane was 24 when he went to Pool, hardly a massive difference.
Because nobody watch Bournemouth i guessTiresome stuff from some of you. Calling people snobs, comparing Fraser to players who at 20/21 were rated amongst the elite of their age group.
Never saw one post on here rating Fraser before we were linked with him.
Tiresome stuff from some of you. Calling people snobs, comparing Fraser to players who at 20/21 were rated amongst the elite of their age group.
Never saw one post on here rating Fraser before we were linked with him.