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Ryan Fraser

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by aevi, Apr 2, 2019.

  1. Kobi

    Kobi I Know Who You Are

    He was only able to go for people on loan ffs , who is going to loan out a top first team player in January ?
    We tried to get Perisic but were unsurprisingly told to do one.
    The summer he had a fifty odd million budget and a squad with no reliable centre back, no defensive midfielders, no wingers, no nongeriatric goalkeepers and one right back, most people (not trolling) would say given the resources we did pretty bloody well.
    Torreira, Sokratis and Leno were great additions, even Lichtsteiner, eight Serie A titles on a free transfer, made sense.

    You are talking as if he took over Man City's squad and just had to bring in a couple of £60m fullbacks, this squad was a complete clusterf*ck, even with a half decent chairman you are looking at least three or four windows to balance it out.
     
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  2. Toby Andrl

    Toby Andrl Part Time Stuttgart Fan Trusted

    I think you read my take as more harsh than it was intended, because essentially I'm saying the same thing as you. The guy is seriously talented but only 19 years old, you mention Gnabry who also took "a bit longer" to hit his stride. You could name Sancho as well who only really came into the fold of Dortmund's first team towards the end of his first season there and now has exploded in his second.

    I'm not saying Nelson's too bad, I'm arguing exactly that the boy is only 19 years old and that going by the overall rather underwhelming loan at Hoffenheim needs more time to develop - and that Arsenal probably isn't the right place for that next season as he needs consistent game time on a high level, but at the same time hasn't shown the signs yet where I'd go and say: "ok, this boy will definitely play a role at Arsenal next season." I just think his loan has shown pretty clearly that yes, he is talented, but that he's just not ready yet, especially not for Arsenal. That's why I think another loan is probably the best option for him.
     
  3. krengon

    krengon One Arsene Wenger Trusted

    I'm starting to temper my expectations with him too tbh. Not because he isn't ridiculously talented, but he's too passive, doesn't seem to be able to translate his game from youth football to the seniors yet.
    Someone like Hudson-Odoi, shows no fear when playing with Chelsea's first team and acts like he belongs, not afraid to play his game, same with Sancho. Nelson tends to usually go for the safe option even when that's not the best choice and he hides a bit too so the game just passes him by.

    He still has time to improve that part of his game/mentality, and hopefully with experience he will, but I don't see him having any impact for us next season now, and another loan(where he's a starter and gets major minutes) would be the best.
     
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  4. <<reed>>

    <<reed>> Meme Merchant

    GDeep: "We left Highbury to buy a LB from a relegated team ffs".
     
  5. Toby Andrl

    Toby Andrl Part Time Stuttgart Fan Trusted

    Think that's actually on point. He hasn't really been able to include himself in games fully.
     
  6. aevi

    aevi Hale End FC Moderator

     
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  7. Mitch

    Mitch Bellerin Upgrade Advocate

    Another goal and 2 assists today.
     
  8. Garrincha

    Garrincha Wilf Zaha Aficionado Trusted

    Plays like a less exciting more disciplined Shaun Wright-Phillips.
     
  9. Vinci

    Vinci The Sultan of Unai

    What a player.
     
  10. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

  11. field442

    field442 Hates Journalists Named James Trusted

    12 assists is nothing to be sniffed at, no matter who they’ve come against. Özil has only got double figures assists (in the league) once since he’s been with us.
     
  12. al-Ustaadh

    al-Ustaadh Leave Mikel Alone!!

    According to the lineup he played at LM/LWB today too.
     
  13. Sanchez11

    Sanchez11 Superior Journalist To Charles Watts

    No brainer imo
     
  14. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Thomas Tuchel Stan Trusted

    People used to always say Özil needs better players around him right?

    Well imagine if Fraser had better players around him?!

    Think he's be worth a shot at 20m based on this season. Offered more than Suarez anyway.
     
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  15. Mitch

    Mitch Bellerin Upgrade Advocate

    I would take Fraser over that Hype job Zaha any day.
     
  16. say yes

    say yes Thread Title Abuser

    7 goals too..
     
  17. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Can see Bournemouth cash in for 20M if we get him plus another quality winger I'll be pleased about it
     
  18. drippin

    drippin Well-Known Member

    Didn't Walcott go for 20 million pounds or similar a year ago? Both are HG? Why would Fraser be cheaper with big clubs interested?

    I think Fraser is now 7+11 in EPL, and Walcott 3+2. About 700 minutes difference in game time. Looks cheap to me with Walcott's injury background, don't know about Fraser's.
     
  19. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Fraser only got 1 left in contract won't cost more than 20M also he rejected new contract so there no reason for Bournemouth to let him stay then lose him for free
     
  20. drippin

    drippin Well-Known Member

    How many years did Walcott have when sold?

    Walcott's 2016/2017 season had him at about the same minutes (as in the comparson above, about 700 minute difference), and 10+2 vs the 7+11. And he was older than Fraser when sold. Stats made in Bournemouth vs Arsenal.
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2019

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