Squad Analysis 2020/21

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Marjorie, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. Marjorie

    Marjorie Well-Known Member

    Goalkeeper
    Leno
    Martinez
    Macey

    Defenders
    Luiz
    Mustafi
    Saliba
    Tierney
    Bellerin
    Holding
    Kolasinac
    Maitland-Niles
    Chambers
    Sokratis
    Mari
    Cedric

    Midfielders
    Xhaka
    Saka
    Willock
    Torreira
    Guendouzi
    Özil
    Nelson
    Smith-Rowe
    Elneny

    Forwards
    Aubameyang
    Lacazette
    Nketiah
    Pepe
    Martinelli​
     
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  2. North5

    North5 Here since 2009. Unlike Cornavirus.

    First

    That is all
     
  3. AberGooner

    AberGooner Active Member

    That's a big squad on paper with barely any genuine quality. Need to be getting rid of at least 5 of them before we even think of adding to it
     
  4. Hexagon9

    Hexagon9 Well-Known Member

    Where’s Saliba?
     
  5. Marjorie

    Marjorie Well-Known Member

    Knew I'd forgotten someone
     
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  6. GoonerJeeves

    GoonerJeeves Up The Terriers

    That is a depressive list. Lets hope some quality is added. At least we got two decent goalkeepers.
     
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  7. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Goalkeeper
    Leno Keep
    Martinez Keep
    Macey Keep (doesn't make much of a difference)

    Defenders
    Luiz Keep (not that we have a choice)
    Mustafi Sell (ideally we sell him anyways but it's dependent on bringing someone)
    Saliba Keep
    Tierney Keep
    Bellerin Sell (look this is a difficult situation because now that Cedric is permanent I feel that we have to sell Bellerin)
    Holding Sell
    Kolasinac Sell (or rip up his contract, no one's paying money for this guy)
    Maitland-Niles Keep (look I'd definitely keep him and have him first choice RB, whether Arteta feels the same I don't know)
    Chambers Keep (at the moment I'd keep him and give him a go but I'd sell if we could bring in better)
    Sokratis Sell
    Mari Keep (again we don't have a choice, he wouldn't be a guy I'd be keen on building the team around)
    Cedric Keep (I suppose he could be a decent backup,maybe... probably not)

    Midfielders
    Xhaka Keep
    Saka Keep
    Willock Loan (Needs playing time, maybe give him one more opportunity on loan)
    Torreira Sell
    Guendouzi Sell
    Özil Sell (if we could sell him then obviously, but we won't)
    Nelson Sell (this guy should be used for swap deals, etc)
    Smith-Rowe Keep (deserves a season to impress imo)
    Elneny Sell

    Forwards
    Aubameyang Keep (in an ideal world anyways)
    Lacazette Sell (one of the few guys we could get some money for)
    Nketiah Keep (I think he'd be an alright backup, but at the same time if we could get some money or use him for a swap then we should)
    Pepe Keep
    Martinelli Keep

    This leaves us needed another left-back, a centre back, maybe an RB because of the situation we're in now, a couple of midfielders at least and either an LW or a CF depending on what Auba does.
     
  8. MikelHadADream

    MikelHadADream Well-Known Member

    So poor that list, hopefully the club can get rid of a lot of that ****.

    Bellerin/Mustafi/Sokratis/Holding/Torreira/ElNeny/Guendouzi/Özil/Lacazette all have to go. I'd also consider selling Nelson/Willock if a decent offer came in.
     
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  9. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    Theres so much quantity and very little quality.

    Most teams sign a player when selling another. However we seem to just collect players for fun.

    Sokratis, Mustafi and Holding should be shipped out. Maybe even Kolasinac.

    In midfield Elneny goes and seems Guendouzi too. I would sell Torreria. Too small and soft for the PL.

    In attack if Auba stays Laca goes and if Auba goes Laca stays. Either way one has to go.

    The club have had 3 months during quarantine to get their **** in order and Arteta has had 3 months to demand players are sold and after others are brought in.

    This transfer window is vital as Arteta said the 3-4 moves the club makes this window are vital. Cant have a bad summer window as January is a dead loss.

    And we cant wait until 2021 to strengthen.
     
  10. EinmalImmerEwig

    EinmalImmerEwig Only Wants British Players At Arsenal

    This squad is so tragically poor that only a bit of Classical music can calm me down

    Mozart's Canon for 3 Voices, in B-flat major, K.233/382d

    I think this Canon describes the situation perfectly...

    Please listen to it, it will fill your senses and make you feel hole again

     
  11. AberGooner

    AberGooner Active Member

    Can see us struggling to shift the high earners (Mustafi, sokratis, Özil, kola) unless we loan them paying percentage of wages or basically give them away.
    Another problem is 3 of the players included in that bracket (Cedric, Mari, luiz) have all been given new deals.
    Maybe harsh on Mari but can't see him being the answer long term although I think Mikel will start him.
    Torreira , guendouzi and either Laca/Auba is where you'd hope a bit of cash would come from. Holding should be easy enough to shift to a lower half premier League side
     
  12. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    First players you have to get rid the unwanted players elneny Özil Sokratis and Guendouzi these 4 players are not in manager plan so they should be first to go.
     
  13. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    Again with limited funds every signing we do make has to hit the ground running. We cant be dropping most of our budget on 1-2 players who don't perform.
     
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  14. EinmalImmerEwig

    EinmalImmerEwig Only Wants British Players At Arsenal

    Keep list:

    Leno, Martinez, Saliba, Tierney, Maitland-Niles, Xhaka, Saka, Aubameyang, Martinelli

    and I'm still 50/50 on a couple of those, FFS!
     
  15. Hexagon9

    Hexagon9 Well-Known Member

    Thank goodness for that. I thought that having had a good look at his potential CB partners he’d decided to retire.
     
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  16. Easier to point out wich one i would like to keep, shorter list that way ..

    Defenders to keep.
    Saliba
    Tierney

    Midfield.
    Saka

    Forwards.
    Martinelli
    Pepe
    Auba

    IF we would be serious the rest is nothing to have
     
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  17. Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility

    Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility Not a Closet Spurs Fan

    Goalkeeper
    Leno - Save us Bernd!
    Martinez - Sell
    Macey - Sell/Loan whatever

    Defenders
    Luiz - 1 year contract given so will probably be kept. But I'd sell
    Mustafi - Serious injury so can't sell but I'd fire him into the sun
    Saliba - Save us Willy!
    Tierney - Save us Kieran!
    Bellerin - Keep but need to slip in meat powder into his meals.
    Holding - Sell
    Kolasinac - Send him to the gulag
    Maitland-Niles - Do everything to keep him
    Chambers - Keep
    Sokratis - Meh
    Mari - Meh
    Cedric - Recently signed and Vinai clapped his goal. But I'd toss him out

    Midfielders
    Xhaka - Keep as backup
    Saka - Save us Bukayo!
    Willock - Loan
    Torreira - Sell
    Guendouzi - Sell
    Özil - Sell
    Nelson - Keep. Talent is there. Needs chances
    Smith-Rowe - Absolutely keep
    Elneny - Mummify him

    Forwards
    Aubameyang - Create a fundraiser and give him whatever he wants
    Lacazette - Sell
    Nketiah - Keep as backup
    Pepe - Keep
    Martinelli - Save us Gabby!
     
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  18. dashsnow17

    dashsnow17 Established Member

    Christ that's depressing. You're absolutely right, but half the players we need to sell will cling on to their contracts for dear life, and the players we need to buy you're looking at two summers worth of business. And the new season starts in 6 weeks. And we might not be in Europe. And do we even have a transfer budget.

    We're looking at a fight to cling on to our status as a top 6 club, any talk of top 4 should be shelved for at least 12 months.
     
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  19. Maybe

    Maybe Well-Known Member

    Think we've just reached the peak of the failed system introduced by Wenger and Gazidis, quantity over quality, average experienced players over young and cheaper talented players.
    Our salary expenses hit an all-time high and we are out of the CL to cover for that. While there's never a good time for a COVID disaster, it came at the worst possible time for us and our club will be hit harder than other top clubs because of our horrendous player structure.
    Our problems were created a while ago with the applause from the majority of the fans. Massive celebrations for Özil's new contract, fans generally being happy with stupid additions like Elneny, Lich, Sokratis, Mustafi, Wellbeck, Luiz, etc., and some unlucky transfers that didn't work out as expected like Xhaka, Torreira and Mkhi, good players but not what we need.

    The positives for me were some encouraging additions to the first team like Saka, Martinelli, Nelson, Willock, Douzi and Eddie, with the potential to add ESR and Saliba to that group. At worst, these players will have a good value on the market as we see it currently with Douzi. They are good enough to provide the squad depth and generally don't cost much, they are easy to sell if they don't fit in.

    I highly doubt we will be able to sell any of the experienced deadwood, so we will need to survive until their contracts are up.

    We need to avoid adding "experience" at all cost, otherwise, I can't see us getting out of this trouble
     
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  20. Hunta

    Hunta NOT In A Caravan Trusted

    What a load of rubbish.
     

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