$tan Kroenke Becomes Soul Owner

[al-Ustaadh]

"**** Stan Kroenke!"

 

[OneAW!]

The only way we can get rid of Kroenke is if we go nasty, Liverpool style. Unfortunately Arsenal fans don’t have it in them and we’ll forever be stuck with Kroenke and his family as they milk money off us.

Arsenal fans wasted their nastiness on Wenger. They are also content to be told on Internet forums by paid hacks who work for Kroenke for all that we know, that it(protesting Kroenke and demanding he leaves) just wo0nt work so please pretty please don't try. Hmmm, I wonder why Kroenke would want to spread a narrative that Kroenke out just wouldn't work?

 

[Rain Dance]

When is someone going to volunteer to put one of the dead animals from his TV show in his bed?

so you made him an offer he can't refuse

 

[al-Ustaadh]

I say we get statues made of Stan and Gazidis. Them hanging from nooses.

 

[Red London]

I’d actually kill this prick if I could

What’s 1 life when it’s killing the dreams and passion of millions of people across the world

Greedy *****

 

[RacingPhoton]

I say we get statues made of Stan and Gazidis. Them hanging from nooses.

I think we should just get normal statues made, but the contract should be given to the guy who made that funny Christiano Ronaldo bust.

 

[Hunta]

Don’t see how we get rid in all honesty. The guy has spent over 1 billion buying everybody out, the club is worth around 2 billion. He’s not going to sell for ‘just’ that much when the club guarantees him any loans he wants in the US.

You’re talking about needing somebody who’s willing to pay 3/4 billion for us. Only some Arab somewhere has the ability to pay that, and why would they do that when they can go and buy a Newcastle/Southampton for half a billion.

 

[RacingPhoton]

Don’t see how we get rid in all honesty. The guy has spent over 1 billion buying everybody out, the club is worth around 2 billion. He’s not going to sell for ‘just’ that much when the club guarantees him any loans he wants in the US.

You’re talking about needing somebody who’s willing to pay 3/4 billion for us. Only some Arab somewhere has the ability to pay that, and why would they do that when they can go and buy a Newcastle/Southampton for half a billion.

True. They can buy a small club for half a million and use the remaining money to strengthen teams instead of spending all the money to just buy a club. I don't see a way to get out of Kroenke's hold.

 

[OneAW!]

Kroenke Out we should at least try it in earnest.

 

[Garrincha]

David Dein brought Kronke in, the board didn't like it but it was because they were already agitating against Dein. They probably saw him as "not one of us" or "too ambitious" (ie Jewish).

Not sure it was anything like that but more so the previous share tradings between the key individuals before & around the time millions started flooding into the domestic game.

Deals where one party loses potential tens of millions / hundreds of millions is always going to cause deep divisions & dislike. The stadium & future sale issues just brought it to the forefront.

Daniel David Fiszman - always known as Danny and as Diamond Danny to many fans - was the son of Belgian Jewish parents who fled the Nazis shortly after the outbreak of the Second World War.

Fiszman joined the Arsenal board in 1992, the inaugural year of the Premier League, at a time when the footballing values of the previous 50 years were about to disappear for good. This was made possible in 1991 by his first purchase, an 8 per cent stake in the club, sold to him by friend and former vice-chairman, David Dein. By 1999 he owned 33 per cent.

What Hill-Wood was selling was effectively 5 per cent of what later became Vodafone (Harrison created the mobile operator out of Racal). If they'd kept the shares, Hill-Wood and Fitzgibbons could have made hundreds of millions.

It wasn't the only occasion he sold cheaply. A year after he became chairman of Arsenal, Hill-Wood sold the bulk of his shares to a young sugar trader - David Dein - for £290,250. At the time, Hill-Wood said he thought Dein was "crazy - to all intents and purposes it's dead money". This month, Dein sold his shares to Usmanov for £75 million.

 

[Harz]

We aren't getting rid of him are we? What happened to Alisher Usmanov? Aliko Dangote? Unnamed Middle East consortium?

Also, it's kind of too late now. New FFP rules prevent owner cash injections.

 

[Hunta]

We aren't getting rid of him are we? What happened to Alisher Usmanov? Aliko Dangote? Unnamed Middle East consortium?

Also, it's kind of too late now. New FFP rules prevent owner cash injections.

We don’t really need that type of owner. Just need somebody who takes an interest in what the suits are doing underneath him. He let Gazidis get on with things before sending Josh over and it’s set us back 5 years at least.

 

[freeglennhelder2]

MacKenzie Bezos seems like a nice person, just sayin.

 

[freeglennhelder2]

I’d actually kill this prick if I could

What’s 1 life when it’s killing the dreams and passion of millions of people across the world

Greedy *****

Now, as you know,I normally specialise in Bird Law. But I believe you may have crossed some kind of legal boundary with this post.

 

[OneAW!]

We don’t really need that type of owner. Just need somebody who takes an interest in what the suits are doing underneath him. He let Gazidis get on with things before sending Josh over and it’s set us back 5 years at least.

Hes interested in making sure that we don't take any risks so that he can use us as collateral for his business loans. We got away with it because Wenger was a genius, but things are starting to unravel now, and they will only get worse. Kroenke needs to start showing some ambition, bring Wenger back and give him some proper support and funding, if we leverage our new commercial deals we can turn this ship around quickly and soon, but Emery is NOT the man to do this.

If we give him the cash he needs he will only waste it on one dimensional players who play his boring brand of football. With City, Pool and Sp**s pushing on, Everton improving and Utd liable to turn things around we can't afford any slip ups. If Kroenke doesn't start showing any ambition he needs to be forced out.

 

[Mo Britain]

Hes interested in making sure that we don't take any risks so that he can use us as collateral for his business loans. We got away with it because Wenger was a genius, but things are starting to unravel now, and they will only get worse. Kroenke needs to start showing some ambition, bring Wenger back and give him some proper support and funding, if we leverage our new commercial deals we can turn this ship around quickly and soon, but Emery is NOT the man to do this.

If we give him the cash he needs he will only waste it on one dimensional players who play his boring brand of football. With City, Pool and Sp**s pushing on, Everton improving and Utd liable to turn things around we can't afford any slip ups. If Kroenke doesn't start showing any ambition he needs to be forced out.

Kronke is extremely ambitious - for himself.

 

[Gooner Zig]

bring Wenger back and give him some proper support and funding

Agreed with 99% of your post except this. Do you have amnesia? Wenger would have had us finish 10th this season if he were still here, the toxicity with the fan base, it would have been a circus.

 

[OneAW!]

Agreed with 99% of your post except this. Do you have amnesia? Wenger would have had us finish 10th this season if he were still here, the toxicity with the fan base, it would have been a circus.

He's the best manager in the world.


He was creating his next great team when the fans panicked and gave Gaz the opportunity to get rid of him.

Each and every one of his teams were capable of greatness, its just that once Dein was fired we didn't have the right kind of executives to get us those final pieces. Eventually the best players would have their heads turned and we would have to begin again. Off course the stadium debt, and more importantly undervalued long-term sponsorship deals we signed played a big role in this, but once the new deals were negotiated (poorly, but still a massive step up), we should have done a lot better and Gaz screwed up. It was never Wenger's fault, and the arrival of Sanllehi/Fahmy/Mislintat proved its because Wenger and the trio were able to completely and successfully restructure the squad in 6 months. A squad which under Gaz had become a litany of mismatched players suddenly had shape and form.

People have simplistic ideas about football. They think that a squad is just about how good the players are but in truth its about the players complementing each other. Dennis Bergkamp was a great player but he wasn't right for the Inter squad at the time. Same with Cesc and Sanchez at Barca.

The funny thing is with these new executives, Wenger would have finally been able to get the players he needed to complete the project. Most of you will have no idea how close we came...

For those of you who doubt me, imagine what would have happened if we had missed out on Sol Campbell in 01. No double in 01/02, no wining the league at Old Trafford. No Invincibles. Competition back then was a lot less stiff and we would still have probably finished 2nd, but instead of 2nd we finished top 4(except for the last two seasons which were anomalous for the reasons highlighted earlier).

Or imagine if we had missed out on Jens in 03? No invincibles, No CL final in 06.

Now imagine if that Brazilian World Cup winning goalkeeper hadn't run off in the middle of the night in 02, maybe we retain the title in 02/03. Wenger wins the league 3 seasons in a row. How different would we, he, Man Utd and Fergie have looked then? How different would history be.

The fact of the matter is most football fans have no idea how close we came to regaining our perch or how brilliant our manager is. Just imagine him with the resources of a club like Madrid or Barca, much less City or PSG.

 

[Wrighty4eva]

He's the best manager in the world.


He was creating his next great team when the fans panicked and gave Gaz the opportunity to get rid of him.

Each and every one of his teams were capable of greatness, its just that once Dein was fired we didn't have the right kind of executives to get us those final pieces. Eventually the best players would have their heads turned and we would have to begin again. Off course the stadium debt, and more importantly undervalued long-term sponsorship deals we signed played a big role in this, but once the new deals were negotiated (poorly, but still a massive step up), we should have done a lot better and Gaz screwed up. It was never Wenger's fault, and the arrival of Sanllehi/Fahmy/Mislintat proved its because Wenger and the trio were able to completely and successfully restructure the squad in 6 months. A squad which under Gaz had become a litany of mismatched players suddenly had shape and form.

People have simplistic ideas about football. They think that a squad is just about how good the players are but in truth its about the players complementing each other. Dennis Bergkamp was a great player but he wasn't right for the Inter squad at the time. Same with Cesc and Sanchez at Barca.

The funny thing is with these new executives, Wenger would have finally been able to get the players he needed to complete the project. Most of you will have no idea how close we came...

For those of you who doubt me, imagine what would have happened if we had missed out on Sol Campbell in 01. No double in 01/02, no wining the league at Old Trafford. No Invincibles. Competition back then was a lot less stiff and we would still have probably finished 2nd, but instead of 2nd we finished top 4(except for the last two seasons which were anomalous for the reasons highlighted earlier).

Or imagine if we had missed out on Jens in 03? No invincibles, No CL final in 06.

Now imagine if that Brazilian World Cup winning goalkeeper hadn't run off in the middle of the night in 02, maybe we retain the title in 02/03. Wenger wins the league 3 seasons in a row. How different would we, he, Man Utd and Fergie have looked then? How different would history be.

The fact of the matter is most football fans have no idea how close we came to regaining our perch or how brilliant our manager is. Just imagine him with the resources of a club like Madrid or Barca, much less City or PSG.

That's a lot of hot air your blowing just to state you love Arsène Wenger.

 

[OneAW!]

Everything I stated is true, if he comes back here or goes to a top club like Bayern he will prove it!