Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by OnlyOne, Aug 7, 2018.
After Stan defeated the Last brigade in Wenger, he quickly went in for the kill.
Chippendale Lindley Keswick posh ****
The whole England-Rússia sanctions probably helped this happen if it led Usmanov to lose money.
Either that or he has plan to move on Everton ASAP.
Stan's is probably chanting BUILD THAT RANCH somewhere in Colorado.
it's annoying that we could be under a dictatorship of a not remarkably wealthy person...
The Russians/Arabs at Chelsea/City respectively have downsides...but the upsides have been huge over the years in terms of investment- not just in players either...
what is the upside it being owned entirely by a man who cannot even finance the purchasing of another 30% entirely himself...?
Are we moving to Turkey?
That's what Özil's meeting in May was really about
The financing bit probably follows the same logic of taking the club HQs as it were to the US. Better accounting.
IIRC tt's the same reason we've never paid the stadium debt in one go once it got low enough. The interests charged were such that we made more money by being solvent and keeping the instalments.
Not too upset, this always had the feeling of inevitability about it.
Going to be great banter when Usmanov turns Everton into the next Man City while we’re sacking the kitchen staff so that Stan can finance his new ranch in France.
Would love see that to see the Liverpool fan reaction when Everton win trophies before them
Interesting discussion here, ostensibly about Utd but covering the ownership situation at Arsenal and at other top clubs in England.
In trying to determine how much Kroenke will invest once he's sole owner, you have to ask what the incentives would be for him to winning. In order to win, you have to invest a lot of money and it's a big gamble. Are the rewards of winning worth that gamble, or is it safer to invest enough to make top 4 and continue that steady revenue stream?
Everything points to the latter. We are not City or Chelsea where there was an incentive to win at all costs. City and Chelsea's investment was necessary because their owners needed the trophies as PR tools. The Glazers for instance do not need that, and Kroenke does not need that.
Kroenke needs Arsenal as a source of revenue, but that does not require trophies. So at this point it's likely that he'll set the club up to maintain it's revenue, but he won't take the gamble of investing enough to win the big trophies.
Us being taken over by one rich man should not lead any fan to think that we'll do anything to akin to what City or Chelsea have done. We should look towards what the Glazers have done to Utd, because that is the road we are going down. Ask any Utd fan and they'll tell you it's a road they wish they had never been taken down.
That's a false equivalency because the Glazers used United to saddle their debts. Kroenke is not doing that whatsoever and doesn't need to. Also, there is nothing wrong with Kroenke not investing his money into the club and relying on the club's revenues to run instead.
AM posters are jealous of City and Chelsea which is very disappointing to me.
If Kroenke has secured bridge financing then surely he's got a firm offer from Usmanov?
This is a huge blow
Get with the times mate. I love Wenger but the puritan ethos is long dead thanks to the oil money, and there's simply no turning back now.
You either adapt or get left behind. Evidence suggests that we got left behind.
Don't leave us Alisher
Bit of context please. They (Avs) got knocked out by the President's Trophy winners the Nashville Predators (the team who finished the regular season on top of the league). They made Nashville fight tooth and nail for that series win too, all this coming after being one of the worst teams in hockey the season before.
The first tweet about the compulsory purchase of shares. I can't imagine the heartbreak of having your shares ripped from you like that. No say in the matter. You could have held them for years, felt part of something in having them and then to lose them like that. What a **** Kroenke is
Heard that his LA stadium is massively over budget and KSE borrowed massive money to finance that . On top of that he's borrow 500 million to buy Arsenal .
We are going to get rinsed for his American projects.
He talks Arsenal being self sustainable but yet KSE are far from it.
How do you know what he'll do? He can do whatever the hell he pleases now. And it's not a false equivalency. Just because he might not saddle us with his debts like the Glazers did, doesn't mean the ownership pattern isn't similar.
American takeover, chief exec probably leaving along with long-serving manager...we're Man Utd-lite.
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