Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by blaze_of_glory, Nov 28, 2017.
I still prefer Dick Law('s name).
I keep thinking of The Office when Jim and Michael were co managers.
Does that make Josh the new David Wallace?
He's probably more the Gabe to Stan's Jo Bennet
Can't argue. Elite name
Revolutionary stuff here
I think this must be the real reason why Ramsey's contract was withdrawn - a warning that no player will be rewarded by going past the end of the penultimate season deadline
Emery & Sanllehi making Wenger & Gazidis look like fools by inventing new things like making people work hard in pre-season training and don't let players run into their final year of the contract.
It was down right reckless and irresponsible. We now tying up loose ends.
The same thing is happening in most clubs. Think MU has 7-8 players on the last year of their contracts. Loads of top players elsewhere are also running down their contracts.
It is a phenomenon, so let's see if we can actually do anything about it. The only thing I can think of is forcing a sale if they don't sign. Recoup a bit rather than letting them leave on a free.
However, it makes all the sense for a footballer not to extend until the end. If they go on a free, they get tonnes of add-ons like loyalty fees and signing on bonuses that would have otherwise gone into their transfer fees.
I like the Utd way of keeping a one year extension as an option for the club if they wish to exercise it. Even Tottenham have some kind of arrangement with Alderweireld when they can extend his contract and a buyout clause gets activated if they extend. Both sides are protected. Players leaving on a free will not continue, clubs will find a way to deal with it.
I think it's pretty easy to deal with. Name an Arsenal player that had a clause in their contract. There are so many ways to protect your assets. Sign young players on long term deals, sensible release clauses, extension options.
The key is to set a policy of renegotiation when 2 years remain. For example Auba is 29 with a deal till 2021. He would be 32 at the end of that deal where you would lose him for free. Before the start of next season you sit down with him when he is 30 and extend his contract by one year with a low release clause for when he turns 32. That way he can leave for a reasonable price if he has been moved down the pecking order.
You can't use that strategy with a young player. For example the situation that Man United are in with Martial are in isn't a good one. He is 23 in December with a deal that runs out this year. They have an option to extend. So they could extend it in the hope that they could resign him. However he is so young at 24 that he could literally wait another year as he is so good that they would be forced to play him and he could still leave on a free at 24. If he comes out at the end of the season and says you can extend me but I'm still not signing, they would be forced to sell him at a reasonable price with only 1 year left.
We should be all over that situation. Lacazette is 27, Auba 29, Martial 22. Unsettle the player, make him want to move and refuse to extend and you could potentially buy him and play him as a wide player with a view to him being centre forward in 2 years.
So Ramsey is the sacrificial lamb? I suppose it’s for the greater good, but tis a pity.
Like he said its hardly inventing the wheel. Players normally sign on a 5 year deal and after 3 years you should know what you are doing.
I also like the fact they are putting more footballers on the executive committe with big Per recently joining the fold.
The club is changing on and off the field and i for one feel its for the best. The feel good factor is back.
The main issue is the riculous wages clubs give to their player.
When you have fringe players on 100k/week+ contract you can't sell them at a decent price because the smaller clubs can't afford to have a huge wagebill.
And in the same time the biggest clubs don't offer new deals to their fringe players.
Even though Alexis and Özil were different cases.
His quote is bang on tbf:
This is my favorite part of the interview. Emery is working hard to re-establish an identity on the pitch. With some astute recruitment in a couple more windows, we'll have a team that can operate at peak efficiency, playing to their strengths, kinda like how Liverpool have done in recent years. Hopefully we'll have a lot more success on the pitch than they have.
Yep, Per joining the discussions and having a say is good news. I pity those who snubbed his game recently!
Yeah spot on. Sounds good on paper, but we'll see how realistic that will be in the coming years.
Has been foretold by a couple of people, I think even including Wenger. It's down to the transfer sums. 50 to almost 100m for a very good first team player but who is no marquee signing is something most clubs just won't do anymore, especially if they need or want to do multiple transfers in a window. An above 100m Coutinho, Neymar, pogba marquee signing is far more likely than a 50 or 60m Martial transfer right now. Especially if those players are at big clubs already. If they need to take a step down concerning clubs, 70m will eat all of the budget of a second tier club. If clubs have the cash they will far more likely splash it on a big, big one. That in turn will dry up resources for other transfers. If no big signing is possible, they will rather turn to players that cost less than 40 or 50m and get more than one. That's why a lot of players in that good to very good but not worldclass/marquee signing bracket have started to run down contracts, 'cause otherwise their chances of leaving or getting higher paychecks would sink.
Right now, first tier clubs will rather get one massive signing or a couple of smaller ones, while second tier clubs with multiple squad issues can't spend all their budget on one player. That's why a lot of highly rated but not top crop players aim to run down their contracts for more leverage in contract negotiations or to keep the possibility of a move alive.
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