The Under-23s Thread

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Yes need really good coach for youth team. Nektiah Nelson should get sold it's clear they got no future here
 

Rasmi

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There is no point of investing in having youth come through if you can’t provide a competent coach for them. Bould is absolutely inept and I don’t think i have ever seen a manager pick a worse team than he has

2 wingers in central midfield midfield. 3 strikers with two playing wide and one of the wide men is a 6’4 target man loool
 

MutableEarth

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I turned it off, I have better **** to do.

Really disappointed in Nelson, I get the frustration but sulking just ain't it for me. He's done IMO.

Azeez looked good in that first half minding the midfield on his own. Taylor-Hart was pretty decent aswell in parts. Monlouis was OK.

I agree re Bould. Think we're not getting much out of him.
 

hydrofluoric acid

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Feels like we are throwing all the good work we have been doing in recent years with the academy.

But maybe I'm just naive thinking we can recreate what Chelsea has to a certain extent.

We have no scouting network anymore. Mertesacker with no experience took over the job from Jonker. Our coaches at this level are just a man who has the job with out any criticism because he is a former player...
 

Geofranco

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Things were really looking good from that 2015-2019 era. Seems it's back to banter football for the academy. Hope Azeez, Monlouis, Hutchinson, Bandeira, Taylor-Hart and Sagoe Jnr don't get infected.
 

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The good news is that our last 5 fixtures are against teams around us, including a double header against bottom of the league West Ham. Think the reason for this poor season (apart from Bould) is a result of having too many players in the academy in a way.

There’s about 5 u23 goalkeepers vying for a place, we have a winger playing RB instead of two highly rated England youth internationals. We have no settled midfield and the attack is a mess with Balogun/Nelson and now Nketiah sulking their way through games.

If it was up to me I’d be asking Ampadu to come back and take over the u23 setup.
 

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The thing with the academy is that results (good or bad) are not visible early enough to correct some of the decisions in time or keep a system that is producing good players for the first team.

Can't say if it's Mertesacker or the scouting network missing, but I'll just say this: you sell only one of the "average" talents like AMN or Willock for 15-20M (Iwobi went for 30M), it covers the cost for the whole scouting network, top youth coaches available, all the domestic youth aquisitions for every level, and I'd say that money would last for more than one season, there would probably be some money left to pay for Gunnersaurus - all from that single transfer.

Things that are happening within the first team are now starting to happen at youth levels, which brings me to the point that it's not about Bould, Arteta, or Mertesacker, the problem appears to be somewhere where decisions are being made on the club level, whatever that role is.
 

MutableEarth

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U18s having another shocker as well.

Awful season all round for The Arsenal. Men’s, Women’s and youth sides all rubbish.
Very bad year, particularly coaching wise - that's where I think the bulk of the problem is. This is one of our better scholar intakes, they should be doing much better than they are.

We were missing key players today in fairness but still.

With the game yesterday, there was an extreme lack of balance and an overreliance on slightly older but much less talented players.
 

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Very bad year, particularly coaching wise - that's where I think the bulk of the problem is. This is one of our better scholar intakes, they should be doing much better than they are.

We were missing key players today in fairness but still.

With the game yesterday, there was an extreme lack of balance and an overreliance on slightly older but much less talented players.
How have Ballard, Medley, McGuinness and Clarke done on loan?

We’ve got about 8 CB’s currently inside the club at youth level so a few will have to be sold permanently you’d imagine.
 

hydrofluoric acid

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How have Ballard, Medley, McGuinness and Clarke done on loan?

We’ve got about 8 CB’s currently inside the club at youth level so a few will have to be sold permanently you’d imagine.

Think they are all having decent loans. McGuinness has impressed and I think Ballard is already a fan favorite.

I just wish the coaching at our youth level was better. I think we have a decent level of talent there still but it's doing the kids no favor setting them so badly up every game.
 

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How have Ballard, Medley, McGuinness and Clarke done on loan?

We’ve got about 8 CB’s currently inside the club at youth level so a few will have to be sold permanently you’d imagine.
Think they are all having decent loans. McGuinness has impressed and I think Ballard is already a fan favorite.

I just wish the coaching at our youth level was better. I think we have a decent level of talent there still but it's doing the kids no favor setting them so badly up every game.
Yeah they've all had respectable loans but I think both McGuinness and Ballard have stood out a lot. Both physically imposing and good on the ball. Ballard in particular has had a strong season.

Not sure what's going to happen with them but we'll have to see in the Summer - considering the plethora of young CBs let alone the seniors currently at the club.

I also happen to agree that we do have a decent level of talent but at the moment there's a core of players with decent 1st team prospects that should be prioritised a little more than they currently are. Again, speaks more to coaching more than anything else.
 
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