They are called Referees and they are TERRIBLE

Do you think refs consciously treat Arsenal differently than other teams?


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EmeryCouldnt

convince me enough!


So dumb and unnatural. So you can’t even plead your case on a call. Humans aren’t built that way and need the ability to blow off some emotion if they’re hard done by a call. I had PGMOL and how they’ve chosen to control the game. They really need to go.

Another rule no one asked for to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. That will likely only be enforced against Arsenal.
 

Blood on the Tracks

Not A Fan Of Wokeness

Country: England

Player:Rice
In principle I'm not against this. It works well in rugby.

Problem is it'll get enforced harshly for a couple of months and then get forgotten about by Christmas. You've just got to hope that Arsenal aren't the side to be made an example of till then.
 

MartiSaka

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In principle I'm not against this. It works well in rugby.

Problem is it'll get enforced harshly for a couple of months and then get forgotten about by Christmas. You've just got to hope that Arsenal aren't the side to be made an example of till then.
They will be. You will see multiple instances of players in other teams complaining to the referee and the moment Rice opens his mouth to politely query the referee its a second yellow.
 

BenTal

Established Member

Country: USA
Whether you hate Pep and Man City or not, they were robbed by the referee. How is it possible (1) not to see it's outside the box (2) that VAR does not check it?

They just kill all the joy of the game. This is beyond ridiculous.
 

EmeryCouldnt

convince me enough!
Whether you hate Pep and Man City or not, they were robbed by the referee. How is it possible (1) not to see it's outside the box (2) that VAR does not check it?

They just kill all the joy of the game. This is beyond ridiculous.

A bit of a harsh call. Apparently the judgement was that Haaland was moving away from goal therefore it wasn’t an obvious goal scoring opportunity nor a red card since it was just handling outside the box. That’s a rough one, I know I’d feel hard done if that were against Arsenal.

The penalty for Man City was also a bit soft tbf. Mitchell hit the ball before Bernardo fell on him. But also not reversing the on field decision makes sense since it wasn’t clear and obvious.

Crystal Palace and mainly Henderson earned that win. Although I agree that on the incident you mentioned it was with some help from the refs.
 

Synical

Miss Bold Superstitious [B/]

Country: England
In principle I'm not against this. It works well in rugby.

Problem is it'll get enforced harshly for a couple of months and then get forgotten about by Christmas. You've just got to hope that Arsenal aren't the side to be made an example of till then.
If Rice hadn't have complained so passionately about the penalty he conceded against Mbappe I don't think it would have been overturned. I think this is a shocking rule. We're allowed to complain about things in all areas of our life...who died and made PGMOL king? I'm sick of it. They're constantly trying to find ways to be even more corrupt.
 

Country: England

Player:Saliba
This is another quietly disastrous decision. As noted above, it would clearly benefit Arsenal under these rules to have Rice rather than Ødegaard as club captain. That now becomes a factor for the manager when choosing the captaincy, a decision which derives from a whole host of extremely complex, internal factors to do with personal relationships in the dressing room, relation to the club, contracts and so on, the very last of which should be how well your captain gets on with the too-closely-knit closed shop that is PGMOL. That has now become a very significant factor, an irrelevancy forcing managerial decisions that you might not otherwise want to make. What if - just imagine for a minute - Arteta suddenly had the (brilliant) idea of making Lewis-Skelly captain? Cool idea, wonderful signal to Hale End etc etc - but an absolute non-starter because of PGMOL's interference in clubs' own affairs. So, a sensible manager would pick Rice over Bukayo, over Gabriel, over Myles - see how problematic that gets?

Think of someone like Vincent Kompany, or Lampard or Van Dijk: players perceived as mature, high-achieving types who exploit the unconscious biases of referees, susceptible as they are to being star-struck. The rub of the green they're perceived as benefiting from will only be enhanced by this new rule. Some PGMOL muppet involved in a three-way shouting match between the captain of Ipswich and a 'superstar' like Virgil van Dijk? The rule will naturally benefit those that already have a good media profile: it's a rule that encourages good PR, not better officiating.

Worst of all, it's supposed to encourage respect. Respect is earned, not demanded. The problem of referees' diminishing authority was an instant (and completely foreseeable) byproduct of VAR. The authority of their subjective but final decision-making was suddenly obliterated. This has predictably led to an increase in referees' defensiveness, a decline in their ability to referee 'humanly' or subjectively (reading that particular game), and a decline in their personal man-management skills (THE critical ability in a ref.) And to try and fix this, the thick bald Northerners' big idea is to double down on diminishing the natural, organic, human aspects of the game??? What this is is a theoretically endless power grab resulting from a) the shortcomings of the refs' abilities in the first place and b) trying to fix the consequences of their previous unthought-through rule-making.

TL:DR - there's gonna be more and more of this crap. It won't stop. Down with this sort of thing.
 

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