Thomas Partey: Body Falling Apartey

[bingobob]

Partey is becoming like the classic Wenger players. They played really well in Arsenes team but when they moved on they weren't as effective. And that comparison seems to work for a few Atlético players that moved on recently in Griezzman, Saul recently and Partey. Of course there are some successes (Rodri) but it's a patchy success rate.

 

[Rex Stone]

Partey is becoming like the classic Wenger players. They played really well in Arsenes team but when they moved on they weren't as effective. And that comparison seems to work for a few Atlético players that moved on recently in Griezzman, Saul recently and Partey. Of course there are some successes (Rodri) but it's a patchy success rate.

Tbf Saul has been finished for a couple of years now. The guy peaked in 2016.

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

He had a below par game and he'll rightfully get blamed for the first goal but I was annoyed he received the ball in the first place. As a single pivot, I think he did well not to get over run but its a mad system to play. He should be getting game time with Lokonga and AMN. It's like Arteta wants him to look awful so Xhaka can walk straight back in to the team.

 

[Taneruit]

Partey is becoming like the classic Wenger players. They played really well in Arsenes team but when they moved on they weren't as effective. And that comparison seems to work for a few Atlético players that moved on recently in Griezzman, Saul recently and Partey. Of course there are some successes (Rodri) but it's a patchy success rate.

I wouldn't call Rodri a particular *success*. He plays in a very good team, just doing his thing. But he's far from the best DLP in the prem. Chug him into Arsenal and he's not going to elevate us, if even a starter.

 

[OSBK]

I wouldn't call Rodri a particular *success*. He plays in a very good team, just doing his thing. But he's far from the best DLP in the prem. Chug him into Arsenal and he's not going to elevate us, if even a starter.

Really? I get your point about him being in a good team. Would be interested to know how many dlp's you rate above him in the league, must be a few.

 

[Taneruit]

Really? I get your point about him being in a good team. Would be interested to know how many dlp's you rate above him in the league, must be a few.

I mean yes, I don't think he replaces any of the prominent ones to be honest.

He's not putting up better numbers, nor is he exempt from the position's fault (among else gets caught on the ball too), nor does he put something exceptional up in his passing like the others are capable of at times. On the international stage he also doesn't put up quite the impression the others do. And yes, he does have more competition there, but he's had plenty of appearances too and been the okiest of ok.

 

[Trilly]

I mean yes, I don't think he replaces any of the prominent ones to be honest.

He's not putting up better numbers, nor is he exempt from the position's fault (among else gets caught on the ball too), nor does he put something exceptional up in his passing like the others are capable of at times. On the international stage he also doesn't put up quite the impression the others do. And yes, he does have more competition there, but he's had plenty of appearances too and been the okiest of ok.

He’s got the best pass completion in the league, has pretty much benched Fernandinho and plays almost every game for the best overall team in the league.

He’s one of those players that you just have to accept is good, even if you don’t really get it. Only Fabinho can really compete with him.

 

[Trilly]

Meanwhile Partey just looks like a guy that should sit back and defend but A-M start creaming themselves when he plays his one line breaking pass every 3 games.

Guy isn’t even better than Xhaka, nobody can tell me he’s shown that he’s better than Xhaka.

 

[Paperino]

Meanwhile Partey just looks like a guy that should sit back and defend but A-M start creaming themselves when he plays his one line breaking pass every 3 games.

Guy isn’t even better than Xhaka, nobody can tell me he’s shown that he’s better than Xhaka.

Not better overall?

 

[The_Playmaker]

I dont think he played particularly well, but it seems like most players are struggling under Arteta.

Here is an interesting stat. We played a 4 3 3/ 4231 while Ødegaard and ESR were both on the pitch. ESR and Ødegaard combined, made 0 tackles. Not one tackle in 90 minutes. What is Partey meant to do with that?

 

[Tir Na Nog]

Meanwhile Partey just looks like a guy that should sit back and defend but A-M start creaming themselves when he plays his one line breaking pass every 3 games.

Guy isn’t even better than Xhaka, nobody can tell me he’s shown that he’s better than Xhaka.

Still remember when we signed him and A-M were getting Hard-Ons saying he could play most advanced in a trio with Xhaka and Ceballos because he's "like a 10",

 

[samshere]

Partey is being asked to hold the midfield by himself, he's obviously going to struggle. I didn't blame Xhaka for it, and I'm definitely not going to blame Partey.

 

[Maybe]

I dont think he played particularly well, but it seems like most players are struggling under Arteta.

Here is an interesting stat. We played a 4 3 3/ 4231 while Ødegaard and ESR were both on the pitch. ESR and Ødegaard combined, made 0 tackles. Not one tackle in 90 minutes. What is Partey meant to do with that?

Ødegaard's business has the potential to end up being poor, especially when a guy like Bissouma was there. The combined fee of Ode and Lokonga would very likely be enough to get him so it wouldn't even be a financial hit.

I was hoping that Ode would somehow click in a deeper role being small in frame and he would do for us what Veratti, Modric, and Kovacic do for others, but it doesn't look like he is that player. Whatever combination we try to play on in our heads, it looks like ESR and Ode can't be on the pitch at the same time.

Bissouma and Partey would've been the CM duo we were all waiting for, strong technically and physically. I wonder what was the thought process in Arteta's head to say Ode gets us more than Bissouma

But I'm not the expert, Arteta and Edu are

 

[Paperino]

Still remember when we signed him and A-M were getting Hard-Ons saying he could play most advanced in a trio with Xhaka and Ceballos because he's "like a 10",

Who said he could play in that kind of advanced role?

 

[Trilly]

Not better overall?

What do you mean? All I know is that he’s been a massive disappointment so far.

 

[Trilly]

Who said he could play in that kind of advanced role?

People were comparing him to Paddy and making him sound like someone that could have a similar impact to Yaya Toure and so on.

Man can’t even shoot.

 

[2Smokeyy]

Would people be keeping that same energy had Xhaka lost the ball like Partey and Palace ended up scoring?

Not a fan of this constant favouritism on this forum especially as I have no attachment to any of these players, I just say what I see on the pitch. If Xhaka plays well then he’ll be credited, none of this leeway crap that some are getting.

 

[The_Playmaker]

Ødegaard's business has the potential to end up being poor, especially when a guy like Bissouma was there. The combined fee of Ode and Lokonga would very likely be enough to get him so it wouldn't even be a financial hit.

I was hoping that Ode would somehow click in a deeper role being small in frame and he would do for us what Veratti, Modric, and Kovacic do for others, but it doesn't look like he is that player. Whatever combination we try to play on in our heads, it looks like ESR and Ode can't be on the pitch at the same time.

Bissouma and Partey would've been the CM duo we were all waiting for, strong technically and physically. I wonder what was the thought process in Arteta's head to say Ode gets us more than Bissouma

But I'm not the expert, Arteta and Edu are

I think he has limitations, but he does have quality. However I don't think we will see his true quality under Arteta.

I think that ESR and Ødegaard can play together as fundamentally they play differently. Ødegaard comes to the ball where as ESR is all about making runs off it. Yet ESR is currently being asked to fill in at right back so Tomiyasu can push forward.

Pepe, Saka, Martinelli, ESR, Auba, Tierney all want to run beyond.

Ødegaard, Partey, Lacazette, Lokonga, Xhaka all want to come to the ball.

Arteta is over complicating things. Play a combination of runners and players who come to the ball then ensure the runners actually have freedom to run. What is ESR going to do filling in at rb for Tomiyasu?

I don't have anything against positional rotation, but it has to be about having runners. I also feel Tierney has a starting position as the left side attack. He doesn't arrive on an overlap as he is already there. Why is he tasked with being so high up? Why does our rb have to tuck in all the time? Why can't Tierney tuck in some times and allow a rb to push forward? It is positional rotation with no freedom and no vertical movement.

I think the combination of players is more important than the formation we play. We need to be able to hold width on both sides of the pitch with combinations available. Ideally a ball winner would also make sense.

He doesn't play players to fit a system or who have a specific attribute. He just plays who he likes. He tries to fit everyone in and only Lacazette, Pepe, Martinelli and AMN are regularly excluded.

We actually have interesting profiles, so the fact he serves up this robotic, boring, positional rotation says a lot. It reminds me of United under Van Gaal.

 

[Lakersgooner24]

I've seen it's been mentioned, but he needs to be fined every time he takes a potshot from 30m. There's instances when it's worth a punt, but a lot of the time the shot is not on, and he's just forcing the issue with little hope of a positive return. Absolutely infuriating when we give away possession so cheaply.

Still our best midfielder and the only one who can dominate the match for us in his position, but he's way too inconsistent. He can be world class one week, and Championship level the next.

 

[Monstar-Gunn4r]

Still remember when we signed him and A-M were getting Hard-Ons saying he could play most advanced in a trio with Xhaka and Ceballos because he's "like a 10",

I remember someone throwing shade and pretty much saying it was racist to have lineup where Partey would have to cover for Xhaka. Absolute peak AM.