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Unai Emery: Adios

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Mo Britain, Oct 17, 2018.

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  1. arsenefc

    arsenefc Obsessed With Guendouzi

    he has run out of ideas....and his best ideas were to sideline Özil and ramsey ....and his only go-to move is to go to Doozi. Cant like the mentality to just go after Europa and disregard everything else, but it may be pragmatic in these times.
     
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  2. arsenefc

    arsenefc Obsessed With Guendouzi

    he has run out of ideas....and his best ideas were to sideline Özil and ramsey ....and his only go-to move is to go to Doozi. Cant like the mentality to just go after Europa and disregard everything else, but it may be pragmatic in these times.
     
  3. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry & Miserable

    You posted the same post twice a whole 23 minutes apart!
     
  4. Notorious Big

    Notorious Big Drunka In Friend Zone

  5. progman07

    progman07 Well-Known Member

    So true and people often don't acknowledge the effect of off-the-ball movement of the players, or e.g. which position they take when others have the ball (or the opposition). For example a lot of our problems in a 5-defender formation come from the distance between defense and attack, when the opponents press our 2 midfielders, we do not find combinations that bring the ball forward to danger zones.

    Take Ramsey out, and we have just one player who makes runs without the ball (Auba), and one and a half player who can run with the ball (Iwobi, even if he makes bad decisions after the dribblings and sometimes Torreira).

    However Özil is also a culprit, a player of his calibre should carry the ball a lot more often (and when he does, we score goals like against Leicester)...
     
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  6. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    Yeah and this is exactly how he got his goal vs Crystal Palace, Laca actually found him and gave him the ball back. There's been a lot of times this season where he's made that same sort of run and been in on goal but no one has picked him out.

    He's not the only one either, our players too frequently either don't see runs into space by team mates or just make the wrong choice and do something else with the ball.
     
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  7. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    You keep repeating this, but it’s not true ffs. :lol:

    Something has to account for why the teams don’t finish in the exact order for which they spend. Reasons include, excellent coaches or poor coaches who upset the players, spending badly, free players who turn out excellent like Kane and a whole host of other reasons.

    But here’s the point, not all, but most teams are still pretty close to where they should be despite this. It’s only a rough pattern but it holds fairly well. Money is overwhelmingly the most important factor in where teams finish, and the reason these teams below don’t often drop out of the top 6, even though they do occasionally.
    City 1st, spending 1st
    Liverpool 2nd, spending 3rd
    Sp**s 3rd, spending 6th
    Chelsea 4th, spending 4th
    Arsenal 5th, spending 5th
    United 6th, spending 2nd
     
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  8. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Comes On Here To Get Fat Shamed Trusted

    This is very true and not spoken about enough imo, from the half I watched yesterday I saw Lacazette make some very decent runs but we didn't have a player capable of picking him out, you can literally see them see the run and hesitate because they'd rather not give the ball away.

    Both Mhki and Iwobi do this often and our full backs to, we don't have the technical quality that we require in key wide areas.
     
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  9. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    Laca is another one constantly making runs and our players often don’t see the through pass or ball over top for him and looks frustrated.
     
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  10. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    Ha, just said that about Laca in another post at the same time. You’re right, technical quality is vital. Some of our player would be very different playing in another team.
     
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  11. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    Jesus. :lol:

    Wenger doesn’t need Emery’s hair though, he’s got more himself despite his age.
     
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  12. YeahBee

    YeahBee Terrible hot takes

    They Kinda are when all they care about is how we look

    To implement a strong foundation and defense does take time

    But then when the foundation is there it is set for a long while

    Offense or just the inner structure of 2x4s goes up in a jiffy, but cant stand for a long while without a solid foundation
    Easy to demolish aswell
     
  13. Godwin1

    Godwin1 Very well-known

    Player ability is the most important factor in where teams finish. Money is an important but ultimately supplementary factor compared to this. Is your list done by net spend? And how many seasons back are we going?
     
  14. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    It’s done by the cost of the players as a whole which is very roughly the same as player ability. Better players tend to cost more.
     
  15. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

    It's not a lazy arguement mate, it's common sense. Liverpool conceded 38 goals last season. This year they've conceded 20. They haven't changed their style of play, they've always leaked goals and that has always been their biggest problem under Klopp. They have the world's best CB playing for them this season.

    Do you honestly they'd think have conceded 20 goals with Mustafi playing for them instead of VVD?

    I've seen Liverpool get hit on the counter multiple times this season, the difference with them is VVD never loses a 1v1 and his decision making is superb. He doesn't panic and he doesn't make any stupid errors leading to goals.
     
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  16. Let's play Aubamawang

    Let's play Aubamawang Well-Known Member

    Wtf with jet black hair he looks like Dracula
     
  17. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    And both posts were utter shyte!
     
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  18. squallman

    squallman Still Pining for Wenger

    I will ask again, what does that have to do with Emery?

    It took Mourinho a season or two at United to achieve....... oh wait.

    I can name you plenty of managers who went to an unsettled team and ultimately failed.

    2-3 years? Okay, let me back up a bit. My problem, isn't with the results, well my main problem I should say. The performances are.

    I look at us at times and it's like Wenger is still on the bench. Forget about his stamp on the team and all the rest of it. Most of these guys aren't even his players, the club has very few Wenger disciples left.

    In fact, sometimes I think this lot is still being coached by Boro Primorac the way I see us leaving acres of space in midfield, attackers standing in no man's land, defenders all out to sea

    It has almost been an entire season and our style of play is generally ugly and I'm not seeing much improvement in terms of our positional play and defensive set up.

    How many months does it take to tell a midfielder to stop standing so far apart from your mate?

    Are we going to spend the next few years blaming Wenger's ghost for every failure on the pitch? When will the manager be held accountable?
     
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  19. teamsoutheast

    teamsoutheast Well-Known Member

    Stats wise, our defenders are not playing bad at all. WhoScored rates Mustafi as having an average rating of 7.03. That is the best of all our CB's. We lost a bit of balance when Holding got injured and Mustafi is just out of form and low on confidence at the moment. It's our defensive organisation that has been terrible season after season. And as for VVD, he looks so much better in a better team than Southampton where he has a hard working midfield and wide forwards ahead of him.
     
  20. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Can’t argue with this really.
     
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