Unai Emery: Adios

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Mo Britain, Oct 17, 2018.

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  1. progman07

    progman07 Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure there were 'fans' ever. People gave him time obviously, which he deserved, and there were positives, such us good 2nd half performances, tactical flexibility and early substitutions, but good 2nd half performances disappeared, tactical flexibility became impossible to follow (by fans and players alike), and early substitutions were the result of bad first elevens more often than not.
    One positive thing is his preparation to big home games, he must be given that.

    In the end, we got a manager who is 'decent and hard working', you cannot hate him, he is doing his best. He is just simply not made for a top level team, or a team who aspires to get back into the top level. He is negative against smaller teams, and doesn't have a strong vision about how we should play, or if he has, he is not bringing it into life well enough.

    The key is though: I'm sure he won't last for a very long time here, unless he changes significantly, either improving defensive solidity a lot, or finally switching to adventurous, pressing game when we play on the front foot.
    The management brought in Pepe for 80 million, it is an expensive risk taken because 1) they apparently decided we must get into the top4 at all costs 2) fan engagement level has been significantly decreasing.

    After spending the money we spent in the last few transfer windows (Özil's new contract - Laca - Auba - Pepe - Torreira - Leno - Sokratis - Luiz - Saliba), I can imagine we would rather get a new manager in, than risk another season of EL.
     
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  2. morpho

    morpho Well-Known Member

    Well, thats just plain stupidity... Dont get me wrong, Im not comparing them. But as much as I loved Wenger I cant deny the fact that he was a stubborn bastard. He was brilliant in what he did best (reading and understanding the individual), and I dont think there is a man in the world capable in doing what he created. He was, in my opinion, extreme in following his philosophy, that sadly caught up with him in the end. Now, in Emery I see a similar extreme, but in the far, far end. When your tactics depends completely on your opposition, you really really have to get them right. So far, I cant say that he did. I dont know the statistics, but im pretty sure we were the team with the most victories last season, coming from behind at HT. We are five games in, in his second season, and a new record is set... I want a manager capable to adapt. To have a clear vision, but willing to strain at gnats and swallow camels, when needed. Wenger, never did that. Emery only does that.
     
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  3. morpho

    morpho Well-Known Member

    No questions there...
     
  4. Jasard

    Jasard Forum Issue Troubleshooter

    He didn't win a single away game in the league that season... 10 were losses
     
  5. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    Think he’s being overrated in his big game preparation/approach. To pick a defensive line up and hang on or limit your damage isn’t too hard to do.
     
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  6. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    Again, everyone is bashing him now, but he’s a good manager who will go on from here and have success elsewhere is his career.

    His Arsenal career probably wouldn’t be considered a failure either, you could argue he came in and took the hit as the “transition manager”.

    I respect Emery as a manager.
     
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  7. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    Dumb statement, our transitional period has only just begun. We have sold off much of the deadwood only to add in a young inexperience squad. At the next few seasons we'll need to decide which of the young players have potential and which are the ones that will become deadwood, and we need to get rid of those deadwood without hesitation. We are a long, long way from having a squad good enough to compete for the title.
     
  8. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

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    @Makingtrax

    Not sure what the point is, but you file this one away.
     
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  9. Troopz

    Troopz Well-Known Member

    It was a common theme at PSG too that the players didn’t understand what they were doing, I remember Thiago Silva and Verratti saying that Emery over complicated things and the players didn’t understand their role on the pitch.

    I wouldn’t have hired him based on that disaster of a result that he was in charge of against Barcelona. The lad spunked a 4-0 aggregate lead at the Camp Nou.
     
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  10. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    Record isn't even that good in those games with us anyway.
     
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  11. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    We beat Napoli and Valencia over two legs in convincing fashion, we beat Sp**s 4-2 in the NLD and should have beaten them away. We beat Chelsea and United at home in comfortable fashion. We drew 1-1 and put in an excellent performance vs a Liverpool side that beat everyone. Let's not try and completely rewrite history here, there were several big game performances.
     
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  13. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One

    Believe in Emery, believe in 4th........... most shots conceeded in the league.
     
  14. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Policing Emery's English Skills

    Total boll*cks.

    The more years you’ve been in management, the more likely you are to have spent bigger sums. What does that tell you . . nothing. :lol:
     
  15. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    Fergie though....
     
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  16. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One

    Reckon 1 billion of them 1.2b under Peps name were just full backs.
     
  17. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    Lost to Chelsea (league and EL), City (twice), Liverpool (and now again this year), Sp**s and Utd in the cups...

    It's not horrible but it's hardly worth praising.
     
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  18. Wrighty4eva

    Wrighty4eva Well-Known Member


    Seems like Emery enjoys handicapping himself, either that or trying to be to smart for his own good.
     
  19. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Policing Emery's English Skills

    Don’t get me wrong bro, I’m saying:
    1) He deserves a second season after finishing 5th in his first, which is good for a team spending 5th. Better than Klopp and Mourinho’s first season.
    2) Don’t think it’s his fault the club didn’t sort out our defensive issues from last year and has allowed them to carry over.
    3) There are still big quality issues in midfield and at the centre of defence, which any manager would struggle with.

    I never wanted Emery to come here in the first place and don’t think he’s a patch on Wenger. But I still believe he’s not a bad manager and certainly not as bad as people are making out.
     
  20. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Policing Emery's English Skills

    Yeah, where is he?
     

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