Unai Emery: Adios

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Mo Britain, Oct 17, 2018.

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  1. Riou

    Riou Nostalgia Merchant

    I like him and will support him, but he just doesn't seem the fit for us...needs to be at a smaller club, some players/managers just don't suit the top teams...hopefully he wins the UEFA cup or gets top four this season, wouldn't mind taking a gamble on Vieira soon though
     
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  2. drippin

    drippin Well-Known Member

    Well you said he was "good potential". I think he is absolutely great potential, while having accomplished very much at Scottish league as a captain at very young age. Compare that to Jenkinson, who I think could be described as "good potential" when he signed the big contract. Totally different level of magnitude.

    And in fact Tierney has surely already shown Emery enough to replace Kolasinac as a starting LB. Kola makes some mistake almost every game.

    It is just that Tierney is getting eased in after being out of games for ~5 months. We can both see in the future how Tierney proves you totally wrong, I could bet on it. "Good potential" ffs. :rofl:
     
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  3. Kav

    Kav Active Member

    We simply see things differently . To me Tierney is a B class player. On the other hand Ashley cole was an "A"class player.

    i want players of the calibre of cole in our defense not the tierney's of the world.

    I will and do support him(KT) as long as he's here. I just don't rate him like you lot do. Especially based on his what 2 games. :facepalm:
     
  4. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    Ashley is a once in a 20-30 year player though.

    Tierney is potentially great though.
     
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  5. drippin

    drippin Well-Known Member

    Sure. "Good potential" sentence is based on potential. Tierney has showed a lot more than that already in Scotland. It's not based on just 2 games at Arsenal, which were great after such a long injury eventhough easier opponents.

    I would think most people say he is "great potential" (again compare to Jenkinson for example). Maybe we understand the words "good potential" very differently.

    I wouldn't say he is a world-beater either, it has no basis yet. Very few reach that level.
     
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  6. Kav

    Kav Active Member

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    I have not seen much of him playing for scotland to be honest so i can't comment on his displays for that team.

    I'm just saying that he has got good potential and we should support him without hyping him up and putting too much pressure on him. We do that too often as fans.

    He can become a very good player but we should allow him the time, he's still young.
     
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  7. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    Fair points, especially when you consider people like Charlie Nicholas saying that Tierney has improvements to make now that he’s in the PL. Nicholas knows him better than most.

    Van Dijk was allowed to develop at Southampton without much pressure.
     
  8. Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility

    Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility Not a Closet Spurs Fan

    He's not going to be a messiah and solve all our defensive issues but make no mistake the boy can play. He's got all the technical abilities you want in a top class fullback. And about his crossing, it's an absolute laser guided weapon. One thing all defences find hard to deal with is a good old-fashioned early cross whipped in with pace.
     
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  9. drippin

    drippin Well-Known Member

    Yeah, good points. We disagree on the potential and what he has shown already.

    Kolasinac has been okay this season, but I have seen him make at least 2 very silly mistakes leading to goal later in recent times.

    So I will much rather see Tierney there potentially making those mistakes, while his offensive output will very likely be better than Kolasinac (which is not so bad.)
     
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  10. Kav

    Kav Active Member

    Fair enough, I understand your perspective here.
     
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  11. drippin

    drippin Well-Known Member

    It's not a bad mistake to say "good" instead of "great" for example. You had some good points about expectations and that he isn't a world-beater yet.

    But it was just so funny to think what would Jenkinson be then? He was "bad potential" when Wenger extended him? :lol:
     
  12. Gunner boy dd

    Gunner boy dd On Loan To Bayern, No Option To Buy


    Wtf is this? Horrible stuff.
     
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  13. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid A drama queen, hates most of our players.

    What the hell?

    No wonder our players have zero clue these days.
     
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  14. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One

    That’s.... grim. I know its only part of the clip, but you take the other one where he was cosplaying Tony Adams and he seems very much someone who’s difficult to understand.
     
  15. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    You are blind if you can't see how much better we look with Tierney compared to Kola...... Kola is an average player whom we should have sold in the summer. Why we sold Monreal instead I have no idea.
     
  16. Kav

    Kav Active Member

    Emery would do well to see that his message is getting across. Maybe then we can see some changes.
     
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  17. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    Not sure I’m understanding your meaning here matey? For example, Louis Van Gaal, Guus Hiddink and some chap named Arsène Wenger all had extremely modest playing careers.
     
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  18. Kav

    Kav Active Member

    It's not about their careers. As I said it's his ability to get his message across. That will be crucial.

    Edit: Just to be clear. I am not saying that you need to have a good career or be a great player in order to be a great coach. Not at all.
     
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  19. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Arrigo Sacchi and Mourinho to name a couple others.
     
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  20. Dennis_Bergkamp_10

    Dennis_Bergkamp_10 Well-Known Member

    I do think players deep inside think Emery is a clown. I sometimes read his transcripted messages and it makes no sense.

    Maybe a good coach in Spanish in there but it's like I'm listening to a toddler.
     
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