Unai Emery: Adios

[Mark Tobias]

I'm just saying we part ways with Emery at the end of the season. Don't fire him midway through the campaign.

What possible reason do we have to keep him. We are not even at the halfway point and it is clear as day the atmosphere is worsening each day he is still in charge. Cut the loss now, allow the new man time to adapt and carry on with our lives. What possible reason do we have for this pointless nostalgia for a man who has been here 18 months.

 

[Mark Tobias]

Let me further rephrase that @GoonerJay24 .. If we keep him we stand absolutely nothing to gain.. only more damage, less morale and further damaged confidence of players.
If we get rid we can use what is left of this season to rebuild in such a way that we are ready for the next season and can earnestly persue our goals.

How is this not the most obvious plan of action at this stage???
Even if we have a caretaker/steward for the interim period. We can still rebuild a philosophy, work with players and build a foundation for the next season. Right now we are tearing away every positive aspect we have by keeping this guy.

 

[Makingtrax]

6th now and clearly going downhill from last year. We're on a cliff edge too, only 3 points between us and 15th place. Drop down much further we won't even be Europa league.

We were 2nd in 2016 and in the CL regularly and winning FA cups. But the fans kept telling us few Arsène supporters how sh!t that was, and made it impossible for Wenger, the club or the team to operate any further with all their protests.

Any manager could do better than Arsène, right?

Well done lads, hope you're enjoying your football now.

 

[Mark Tobias]

We were 2nd in 2016 and in the CL consistently and all-time winners of the FA cup. .

Fixed, even you're getting rusty

 

[Artisan]

Actually technically you are simply not renewing if it is at the end of the season..

Not really since he has one more season to go, specially if Ornstein is right about there being no clause in the contract. But even if the reports of the clause in the contract are correct, it's a break clause so we would in essence still be firing him.

 

[Mark Tobias]

Not really since he has one more season to go, specially if Ornstein is right about there being no clause in the contract. But even if the reports of the clause in the contract are correct, it's a break clause so we would in essence still be firing him.

Sorry, was under the impression it was a two year with possibility of extension. Either way, get rid now. As you say, doesn't matter when he is fired. Sooner the better.

 

[Artisan]

Sorry, was under the impression it was a two year with possibility of extension. Either way, get rid now. As you say, doesn't matter when he is fired. Sooner the better.

The weird thing is if Ornstein is right and there is no break clause in his contract then it makes even less sense why the board hasn't already fired him since they would still have to pay him compensation if they let him go. Are they risking a midtable finish just to save on paying compensation for an extra 6 month? It just doesn't make sense.

 

[Ash10]

Both myself and most people do not expect Emery to have Klopps impact.

I'm just saying we part ways with Emery at the end of the season. Don't fire him midway through the campaign.

So fire him after finishing mid table & making every good player unhappy?

 

[El Duderino]

6th now and clearly going downhill from last year. We're on a cliff edge too, only 3 points between us and 15th place. Drop down much further we won't even be Europa league.

We were 2nd in 2016 and in the CL regularly and winning FA cups. But the fans kept telling us few Arsène supporters how sh!t that was, and made it impossible for Wenger, the club or the team to operate any further with all their protests.

Any manager could do better than Arsène, right?

Well done lads, hope you're enjoying your football now.

Just wait until we get the "I hope we drop further because no Europa League will be better! Just for one season, it'll be better for the club" crowd that will eventually show up.

(He still had to go tho)

 

[Artisan]

Just wait until we get the "I hope we drop further because no Europa League will be better! Just for one season, it'll be better for the club" crowd that will eventually show up.

(He still had to go tho)

Rather not be in Europa League next season so the next bum manager Raul appoints off his contact list doesn't prioritise it over the league like Emery did.

 

[El Duderino]

Rather not be in Europa League next season so the next bum manager Raul appoints off his contact list doesn't prioritise it over the league like Emery did.

Nah, the money is still better than not playing it. It's the same with UCL. Remember when we had people saying being in the EL would be better because we could actually go far in the competition?

Fun times.

 

[GoonerJay24]

So fire him after finishing mid table & making every good player unhappy?

If the players work hard enough, we should finish nowhere near mid-table.

Fans and football people nowadays tend to blame coaches for bad spells; what about the players? I have seen numerous instances throughout the years where players in a team stepped up even when the coaches quality was insufficient.

Of course if our form continues to drop through Christmas that sees and issues off the pitch remain then the board need to make the right decision.

 

[Mark Tobias]

Of course if our form continues to drop through Christmas that sees and issues off the pitch remain then the board need to make the right decision.

Or they could use their brains and see what is happening right in front of their eyes right now on the pitch every time we play and anyone with any sense and any understanding of this sport can see that PEA, Pepe, Özil and even Xhaka are MUCH better than this and the system is categorically failing the team. FFS

 

[GoonerJay24]

What possible reason do we have to keep him. We are not even at the halfway point and it is clear as day the atmosphere is worsening each day he is still in charge. Cut the loss now, allow the new man time to adapt and carry on with our lives. What possible reason do we have for this pointless nostalgia for a man who has been here 18 months.

True, and I hate seeing it mate.

But just like during Wengers last few seasons, supporters, particularly at home matches, are not helping to improve the current atmosphere which obviously affects the players.

We are 6th not 16th, multiple things can change in football within a matter of weeks. I want to support a club who gets behind its employees during the difficult periods in a season. Rather than Chelsea's approach for example.

That's just my personal view, I understand the frustration towards Emery at present completely.

 

[GoonerJay24]

Or they could use their brains and see what is happening right in front of their eyes right now on the pitch every time we play and anyone with any sense and any understanding of this sport can see that PEA, Pepe, Özil and even Xhaka are MUCH better than this and the system is categorically failing the team. FFS

So who would you bring in right now to replace Emery?

Is that manager capable of joining the biggest club in the world's greatest city midway through a season to coach key principles, communicate his philosophy and maintain club values like giving young players game experience?

We're having problems right now but with Wenger as coach for 20 - 21 years, the club are still in transition. Times are tough but let's not lose perspective, we are 5th in the table during transitional stage not 15th.

 

[Mark Tobias]

we are 5th in the table during transitional stage not 15th.

A few weeks ago people were bragging about being 3rd. Look how we plummeted, as expected by everyone because we're actually witnessing the rubbish displayed on the pitch and we're clued up about this game enough to know this man will NEVER take us anywhere into the top 4.

 

[Mark Tobias]

@GoonerJay24 let's look at it the other way. What possible benefit is there from keeping Emery at the moment?
Does he have a clear style we can see?
You claim the players are the problem yet PEA was the golden boot winner last season and we currently have a -1GD. Are you seriously pointing fingers at our strikers for our current GD?
We've conceded more opportunities to opposition attackers than any other team in the top half. Are you suggesting our players have forgotten how to play and this is all their fault? And if you have answered yes to either of the above why on earth don't you believe it is the manager's job to fix it?

 

[tap-in]

6th now and clearly going downhill from last year. We're on a cliff edge too, only 3 points between us and 15th place. Drop down much further we won't even be Europa league.

We were 2nd in 2016 and in the CL regularly and winning FA cups. But the fans kept telling us few Arsène supporters how sh!t that was, and made it impossible for Wenger, the club or the team to operate any further with all their protests.

Any manager could do better than Arsène, right?

Well done lads, hope you're enjoying your football now.

That's not actually true. Fans turned against Wenger because of the performances. You make it sound like all was hunky dory and suddenly the fans turned against him. Don't forget the strange subs he made as well, the fans were right to want a change, the fact we ended up with Emery is a different story!

 

[Ash10]

True, and I hate seeing it mate.

But just like during Wengers last few seasons, supporters, particularly at home matches, are not helping to improve the current atmosphere which obviously affects the players.

We are 6th not 16th, multiple things can change in football within a matter of weeks. I want to support a club who gets behind its employees during the difficult periods in a season. Rather than Chelsea's approach for example.

That's just my personal view, I understand the frustration towards Emery at present completely.

We're 3 points above 15th place ffs

 

[Mark Tobias]

We're 3 points above 15th place ffs

"But we're third in the league" October 2019
"But we're sixth in the league, not sixteenth" November 2019
"But we're not going to get relegated" December 2019
" Fvck this sh!t" May 2020