If you post something like this you have to be prepared for some serious backlash. You are aware this is an Arsenal fan forum, are you not? Politely saying, this was a bit of a crumbly biscuit of a post you delivered there... Plus bringing in Stuttgart into the conversation? What is that? In the Bundesliga (and next season in the Second Bundesliga) I support Hannover 96 and I wouldn't dream of bringing them into a discussion around Arsenal. Not that Stuttgart are quite as bad (really no one is), but there is s**t, then there is s**t and then there is competing at the highest level in club football in Europe as we are in the PL. We are maybe not as pretty on the eye as we have been in earlier incarnations, but we play good solid football and are getting some pretty decent results. It is just because Liverpool and Man City are playing out of this world right now we look average. We are at 66 points at this point in the league. That is pretty good to be honest. 3 points better than after 38 games last season. Let's admit progress where there is progress.