Useless International matches

Discussion in 'Football Talk' started by clockwork orange, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. Rex Banner

    Rex Banner YNWA Trusted

    Ireland struggling here but have stayed in the game tbf. Connolly looked a decent talent in the 70 minutes he was on for.

    Xhaka’s been aright tonight.
     
  2. The White Pelè

    The White Pelè Well-Known Member

    2-0 for us with Belotti. Nice header from a corner.
    Far Oer up, Gibraltar draw and Romania take the lead against Norway.
    3-0 Romagnoli! Another good header.
     
  3. Notorious Big

    Notorious Big Stuck in the friend zone

    3-rd teams will go to play-off,right ?
     
  4. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Loves the A-M Mods

    Ireland are dreadful.
     
  5. The White Pelè

    The White Pelè Well-Known Member

    5-0 FT despite not playing well.
    Far Oer, Georgia, Greece (Bosnia truly ****ed it up), Israel and Switzerland win, while Romania and Spain draw. Spain qualifies.
     
  6. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Manutd really in bad luck De gea look done his hamstring and could be 3-4 weeks out.
     
  7. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Mick McCarthy is so so negative, imagine still picking McClean and Whelan in 2019, heck Doherty should be starting over a finished Coleman too captain or not.
     
  8. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Loves the A-M Mods

    The most boring man in football. When he commentated on the World Cup in 2010, my dad complained to the BBC about him.
     
  9. The White Pelè

    The White Pelè Well-Known Member

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  10. Hjalmaar

    Hjalmaar Well-Known Member

    Foook me! We (Finland) are so so close qualifying to a major tournament for the first time in our history. Need two points and we've got Liechtenstein at home next. Also, both Armenia and Bosnia have to win all their remaining games (including Italy) to have any change catching up. C'mon!
     
  11. carter777

    carter777 Thinks Poch Is The GOAT

    Looks like Sterling and Gomez kicked off on England duty. Sterling dropped, no punishment for Gomez

     
  12. Flying Okapis

    Flying Okapis Well-Known Member

    Yeeeeah he's probably England's best player :facepalm:

    As much as they are adults and 'professionals' I do think its kind of stupid having a team meet the next day, yes you expect better but sometimes you just have to prepare and maybe make allowances to avoid and prevent situations like these from happening.

    It was obviously an emotionally charged game, again they are adults but they both should have been approached/spoken too before arrival regarding any potential conflict.

    A lot of assumptions on my part, but thats what we do here at AM :trophy:
     
  13. Riou

    Riou Well-Known Member

    I don’t like the narrative that the reason England’s Golden Generation never won a tournament, was because there was too many club rivalries in the squad...England were very good back then, but I think there were just better teams back then...all nations have club rivalries in them, you won’t get anything worse that Barca v Madrid, but that didn’t stop Spain winning...if Southgate thinks all he needs is for everyone to get along to be successful he is wrong, I think you need some healthy tension in every successful squad.
     
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  14. Rex Banner

    Rex Banner YNWA Trusted

    It’s mainly because they had either negative or sh*t managers who didn’t know how to balance a side.

    They all bottled the Gerrard - Lampard issue. It sounds mad but there wasn’t room for both of them. They played in the same position in very similar roles. Also the persistence with two strikers always baffled me.

    If you had to always play 4-4-2 with no deep midfielders meant you had to sit really deep in a low block.

    For me the peak Golden Era line up should always have been:

    James
    Neville - Ferdinand - Terry - Ashley Cole
    Hargreaves - Scholes
    Beckham - Lampard - Joe Cole
    Rooney

    Not a lot of blinding pace but every player would be in their best position at least and you wouldn’t have had the banter scenario of Scholes sacking in Internationals almost a decade before he retired.
     
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  15. Riou

    Riou Well-Known Member

    Think any England team from 2006 on should’ve never played with 2 up top, and should always have had Carrick in the team.

    Side note, always wish we signed Hargreaves before he went to United.
     
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  16. Juan Matas Beard

    Juan Matas Beard Friendly Mancunian facial hair

    It's a bit of a myth that the issue was purely management, don't get me wrong it wasn't perfect but the players for me were the bigger issue, they never played for each other, they weren't willing to sacrifice for eachother They were all rivals who wanted to upstage eachother. Bar Robinson and Hargreaves (class player but at Bayern at the time) they were all rivals from elite clubs. I do think we would have benefited from Scholes as this side lacked a link player that could add the cohesiveness required but ultimately they showed him no respect and Scholes is no sidebitch, he's a mainbitch.

    This is how we lined up in 2006 before being knocked out by Portugal. Funnily enough we won every game in which we played Gerrard and Lampard together as a 2 man midfield in the 2006 World Cup.
    • 01 P Robinson
    • 02 G Neville
    • 06 J Terry
    • 05 R Ferdinand
    • 03 A Cole
    • 16 O Hargreaves
    • 07 D Beckham (51 A Lennon )
    • 04 S Gerrard
    • 08 F Lampard
    • 11 J Cole (65 P Crouch )
    • 09 W Rooney
     
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  17. The White Pelè

    The White Pelè Well-Known Member

    Would be nice if we could win all our remaining games so we can finish the group with 10/10.
     
  18. The White Pelè

    The White Pelè Well-Known Member

    Turkey 0-0 at HT against Iceland. They just need a draw to qualify.
     
  19. The White Pelè

    The White Pelè Well-Known Member

    Turkey has qualified.
     
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  20. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Should just ask us in future. Put the two bellends in a phone box, 10 oz gloves, no headguards, someone's getting KTFO. End of beef.
     

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