Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Aevi, May 15, 2019.
He's a farmer based on what evidence???
What’s wrong with over paying sometimes? Dunk had been excellent for a few years and knows English football.
There is no problem but knowing our limited budget we'll struggle to buy him
If this club can’t sign a decent defender from Brighton then I think it’s time to pack up and go home.
Keep hearing mixed reports.
What's your take on this @Dokaka?
Stats... hmm okay, the same stats that would tell you Mustafi is a good defender? I wonder why he was dropped for Ogbonna in March, April and May in key fixtures and West Ham fans were clamouring for him to be dropped?
People who watch Brazilian football seem impressed with him and say 12M would be steal.
Not sure why anyone would say he's a bad defender when he's been at least above average for large parts of the season at the age of 21/22. Wouldn't say he's some world beater or anything but he'd definitely be a locked in 3rd choice at Arsenal currently behind Kos and Sokratis. Close-ish to Sokratis level I'd say, with huge upside of course.
Mate he's barely out of his teens and already looks like a solid PL defender at worst. He's playing the position where the experience that comes with age arguably matters more than any other position on the pitch.
He was 4th in minutes played for us this season. First year in the league and very young, of course he was going to have some ups and downs, but turning basic squad rotation into him being dropped is a bit disingenuous. He literally played 1000 more minutes than the 2nd CB.
Mate, if you scroll up you will see that I acknowledge his potential and my response has been that he’s not a top defender in the PL as was suggested.
I may have jumped the gun by saying he’s poverty but he wouldn’t improve us. Is he young with potential? Sure.
Lastly, you can definitely make the case he was dropped because he was overplayed and young which is similar to Guen’s situation, however let’s not pretend he’s some world beater as some have suggested. As young CB’s in the PL go, I’ve already said I prefer Holding, Gomez etc.
Considering how much Mustafi has played this season I'm gonna say I strongly disagree with that statement. He'd be a very solid 3rd choice, and he's definitely shown more than Holding. He's also a year and a half younger than him with much better physical tools to build on.
With the way Pellegrini plays, our defenders have been asked to do a lot on their own and Diop has easily been the standout performer. Again, we're mid-table, so I'm of course not saying he's been world class or anywhere close to it, but if you were to take some of our players and add them to better clubs, Diop would probably be 2nd on most team's wish lists given his age.
Keep in mind that this conversation is obviously a bit weird to have right now given just how shambolic your defending has been with the human lowlight reel anchoring it for most of the season. That's why I'm specifically saying he'd be 3rd choice, with Koscielny and Sokratis ahead of him, Kos much more so than Sokratis.
Different argument whether you should actually go for him of course, given your reported limited funds. Probably too much of a risk given the price we'd likely demand. He's not quite there yet if your goal is to get consistent top 4 football, and you'd be paying the "PL player" tax + extra for being a club our fans wouldn't be suuuuper happy to sell to etc.
For the £20m or so we paid, he'd be a no-brainer, but we'd likely ask double that now, with good reason. He's shown leadership ability on top of his ability on the pitch, being named captain for Toulouse at the age of 19 etc.
In short, you're probably better off looking for your own Diop-type signing in Europe rather than spending extra to bring in more established young players, but I really reject the notion that he wouldn't improve your current team. He'd likely be a starter before the season was over, but at the same time that doesn't necessarily mean he's good enough to get you where you want to be.
If Atletico wants him then that’s good enough for me.
15 million dollars?! ****ing hell Arsenal don't blow our budget all at once.
If we seriously buying this guy meaning 2 defenders are going likely mustafi and Chambers
I've been thinking it likely that both Mustafi and Chambers might be moved this summer. Neither one are really top 6 quality players. I think Chambers is a guy who would interest quite a few clubs outside the top 6 and fetch a good price considering the season he had with Fulham. He could be an option at center back or defensive midfielder for a number of teams.
Kannemann has been a good player in Brazil, Mexico and Argentina. I've seen him a few times, including recently in Copa Libertadores, but I'm not qualified to say how well that would translate to the Premier League. I'll leave that to the professionals.
Always wanted an Argie defender.
We are doing wonderful job! This is probably Edu guy and we are surprising other teams in top6 because they never thought that there might be good 28 year old CB still playing in South-America. Out smarting the market is what we need to do more of! Proud of Raul, Emery and Edu here!
I hope he is not our only defender signing I think we need a younger one too.
Chambers played as CDM for Fulham.
We have no Back-Up for Torreira in our squad and we will not invest money for this postion.
Hm, a 28 year old lad from SA.Feels quite the thin dicked signing, not the thickness i'm looking for. Always exciting with unknown players tho. I trust our team.
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