Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by krackpot, Mar 7, 2018.
edit: oh Xhaka
We need a disciplined defensive minded midfielder who still has the
I had high hopes for Xhaka but he simply isn't that player. (Kanye or even dembele like)
Jack does everything Xhaka does but better. They should be competing not partnering.
Keep Ramsey out of the guts of our midfield, if you want to keep him let him compete with our forward line.
The days of squaries and roundies is over.
Fixing that core midfield will improve our backline immensely.
DM/DLP - Elneny - AMN
Jack - Xhaka - Willock
The problem then must be how they are set up,, or what they are instructed to do.
Ramsey no longer stays in position but stays forward and relies on his stamina to rush back. If someone instructed him to move forward AFTER Özil/Mkhi get the ball, he could be even more dangerous. Nowadays he stands on the edge and waits for the ball, which is what a striker like OG would do.
Wilshere has been underwhelming. He's not done any of his famous turns, which is one of his best tricks. Someone posted a video which shows how a good CM makes a difference.
Diaby beats two players with a 'simple' play, runs ahead and scores. There are almost 8 AFC players still in our half so no risk of getting countered.
Xhaka is much better than Jack defensively. We need someone else.
Matic would have been perfect.
4 midfielders who can't defend...... play this if you want us to be crushed. For all the talk about a Cazorla replacement why don't we start talking about a Coquelin replacement? We have been badly missing the steel that an on-form Coquelin provides us......
They can defend just fine if the manager organizes the team to defend, We've seen much better performances out of em all, a competent coach will create an atmosphere where their average performances are higher and playing closer to their ceiling Skillwise
Özil naturellt shouldn't have any such responsibility
With the cm trio it will be good cover in the centre
Yup they are told to play the way they do
Or The very least they are not told when they are doing something wrong
Obviously el neny
That's like expecting Walcott or Lacazette to become Henry because they have scored a couple of great goals.....
Xhaka has always been rash in his tackling.
Wilshere has never been good at defending.
Ramsey has been selfish and doesn't want to defend, something some fans actually support cause they think muh goals is all we need from Ramsey.
A midfield with the 3 of them will always be soft and a recipe for disaster.
Paddy was rash early to
It is something You can Iron out
If santi can play CM so can jack (and he has been doing it for his whole career )
Ramsey got the tools for sure, we just need to rein in his bombruns
He frekkin lead the leagues in suc tackles with yaya one point in time
And you are downplaying them actually being 3 in midfield, on a line so jack and Ramsey have easy access to the flanks
Xhaka only dropping slightly
It is not a CDM behind Two cms
That can be used sparingly vs the bigger sides
Diaby's don't grow on trees.
Vieira got red cards early in his career but also from day 1 he has been an artist at making fouls...... plus Vieira is far more athletic than Xhaka. Xhaka is slow and clumsy, that is something which can never been ironed out. Also Cazorla is short but packs a lot more strength than he looks. He's able to outmuscle midfielders bigger than him the way Wilshere can't, and his workrate is better than Wilshere too.
But ultimately the problem is that none of these 3 are Vieira/Cesc/Arteta/Cazorla, none of them have the intelligence and ability to read the game that we used to have in our midfield. As a result they are constantly out of position and our midfield is often a complete mess. Our team would be playing much better if we still have a fit Arteta or Cazorla playing for us.
We all know how much Wenger loves Özil, so why wont he protect him? why wont he put 2 bullys in the middle and allow Özil to "express himself" Playing Özil & Miki in the same team means you need 2 workhorses who dominate the midfield. I feel the front 3 shouldn't have defensive responsibility. All they should do is press and get into shape when needed. But as far as tracking runners and making tackles its not their strengths. So play to their strengths!
If they don't track runners and make tackles they may as Well not play. They just need insurance for if they get dribbled. I.e 2 dominant centre backs and Fabinho
Fabinho alone wont be enough hes not kante but no doubt hes a HUGE improvement. Of course the forwards will make tackles and be busy but id rather my midfield have the responsibility of tracking runners and being the start of our defensive base. Özil & Miki are not those players who press with inesitity
I think a better manager would be able to get the best out of our defenders however signing a good defensive midfielder in the transfer window is very important. Elneny is the closest in our current team to play that role and that speaks for itself.
DM and Wingers are the positions that need urgent reinforcements in the summer.
Ramsey? How far we have sunk when people think Ramsey is Arsenal quality. We have had the likes of Vieira, petit, Bergkamp, Cesc, Santi, Rosicky, Gilberto and even Diaby etc. Now we are at Ramsey level.
If we buy 2 DM's in the summer I'd consider trying a 4-2-3-1 formation. That's a big if because currently we don't have the players to suit it.
It would give protection to our back 4 and it would provide freedom for the attackers.
Looking at our own crop of academy midfielders, I'd really love to see Ben Sheaf in our midfield. Impressive physicial presence and great feet. Unfortunately he is on loan (good for him though). We should be out for a quality DM that can help our youngsters grow alongside them.
Well the midfield I wanted was fielded tonight
but they kinda went out of their way to disprove my point, I say players these days are too concernerd with social media
Xhaka was all over the place
Jack sought out players to dribble and loose the ball to!
Ramsey was actually pretty disciplined
part of the problem is playing two ACMs
Özil should be there alone, the area gets crowded and no room for jack/ramsey to move up
Mkith was at his best when he was out wide anyway