Which will be the next team to overtake Arsenal in domestic football?

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Mo Britain, May 31, 2019.

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Which will be the next team to overtake Arsenal in domestic football?

Poll closed Jun 10, 2019.
  1. 1. Wolverhampton Wanderers

    12 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. 2. Everton

    6 vote(s)
    12.5%
  3. 3. Newcastle United

    18 vote(s)
    37.5%
  4. 4, Accrington Stanley

    12 vote(s)
    25.0%
  1. Gegen Pressing

    Gegen Pressing Well-Known Member

    Mo unlike others I am taking your threats threads very seriously

    No doubt the new oil merchants Newcastle FC will be pushing us one position down in the table , can already see the permanent grin on Benitez's face but watch for Mourinho sneaking around
     
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  2. Gegen Pressing

    Gegen Pressing Well-Known Member

    ....
    and last but not least a veteran manager , who deserves a turn of fortune after centuries of financial austerity and hardship:Rafael Benítez Maudes self proclaimed "lucky one"
     
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  3. DasBootist

    DasBootist Well-Known Member

    Why waste your time pondering hypothetical lows for Arsenal when you should be thankful this letdown of a season has ended, enjoy the summer and marvel at how we **** it all up again next season.
     
  4. Tony's nose

    Tony's nose Active Member

    :rofl:
     
  5. krackpot

    krackpot Well-Known Member

    I hope its Nottingham Forest,
     
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  6. TheEconomist

    TheEconomist Well-Known Member

    I'm not too worried. We had a complete meltdown this season and we only just missed out on third place and fourth place. We might have been ****, but apart from city and Liveepool, so is everyone else
     
  7. FreddieLjungberg

    FreddieLjungberg New Member

    Teams.. not team im afraid..
     
  8. Manberg

    Manberg Well-Known Member

    If we stay on our current path then it will happen eventually. We’re on a slow downward trend.
     
  9. Flying Okapis

    Flying Okapis Well-Known Member

    This thread :lol:

    It will take a long long time until we are consistently worse than them 3, Everton can't and won't attract big names or a decent striker. Newcastle will take years and years of money. Wolves are somewhat of an unknown right now but unless we continue to do nothing we will remain ahead, we were 1pt of CL and 2pts off of 3rd ffs.
     
  10. arsenefc

    arsenefc Obsessed With Guendouzi

    I think the decision to let Ramsey leave, to preserve the wage structure, is an ominous sign. Özil probably is out and if Bellerin gets a big offer, he will be sold.

    The team for next season will probably have Holding / Chambers / Sokratis at CB, bellerin, amn at fullback, torreira, guendouzi, willock, xhaka in midfield and Laca , Auba, mkhi, iwobi in attack.

    CB, Midfield and fullback is really not top 6 level and if we dont buy 2-3 solid players, Everton is not much behind us in terms of squad quality.
     
  11. Sapient Hawk

    Sapient Hawk #NeverArteta

    Accrington Stanley have us in their sights. A few more abject summers & they'll overtake us alphabetically.
     
  12. Mrs Bergkamp

    Mrs Bergkamp Well-Known Member

    Good idea but the fact is, they have copied us as,we were about ten years ago. Both clubs have good owners, chairmen and managers. We don't. Our penny pinching and consequent desperation to kick on made us move away from what made us most successful. We destroyed all the good stuff and tried to write a new book just to show that we were changing for the better. Lol.
     
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  13. GeorgiaGunner

    GeorgiaGunner Closet United Fan

    Troll thread, but sadly relevant. Newcastle if new owners, Wolves if not.
     
  14. ptrcopp

    ptrcopp Well-Known Member

    Imagine if Everton spent as well as their neighbours...
     
  15. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    Don't think Everton have 75m for a centre back or 65m for a keeper. They would need to be dealing some amount of drugs round brookside to get that.
     
  16. North5

    North5 Here since 2009. Still no custom title.

    if you're from London you're moody. Its who we are.
     
  17. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Easily Triggered

    Everything we do now in next 2-5 years needs to be spot on if we dont want to fall further behind!
     
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  18. Toby Andrl

    Toby Andrl Part Time Stuttgart Fan Trusted

    You all know owners can't just put theit own money into clubs anymore? It'll not be like City or Chelsea rising to the top in the matter of few seasons. It'll take longer.

    Direct invesment has, iirc, to end up in infrastructure or academy projects. Thing is though, it's still all dodgy as hell. If you research e.g. Wolves shirt sponsor, you won't find anything of substance. W88 is a dodgy betting company apparently from the Philippines. Wouldn't bet on Fosun - Wolves' onwners - not being involved in that. And even if they weren't, it's still dodgy af.

    City can spend and operate the way the do because the club is owned by the same people as their main sponsors, overblowing sponsorship deals. One of the things they are being investigated for is exactly this kind of relationship. Now, while I don't think this will have big repercussions for City, UEFA will surely have a more close look at newly bought clubs.

    They have enough bullshit to hide with the Spanish clubs, PSG and City. They surely don't want to raise more criticism by adding more clubs outright cheating on FFP. Their focus anyway lies on stripping top clubs of their inflluence and directing money their own way.
     
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  19. ptrcopp

    ptrcopp Well-Known Member

    I think the net spend over the last few seasons has been similar between Everton and Liverpool. Obviously the starting place was higher, but their investment has been poor in comparison.

    Example forwards: In the same time frame, Liverpool have bought Mane, Shaquiri and Salah, (total £88) while Everton have bought Bolasie, Walcott, Tosun, Richardson and Bernard (Free) ( total £100m)

    Example cb: excluding departures, Liverpool have spent a total of £80m on centre backs: Matip (free) Klavan, Van Dijk. Everton have spent £72m on Mina, Zouma (£7m loan fee), Keane, Williams.

    If Everton continue selling well, but start buying well too and we continue to stagnate, they’ll shoot ahead
     
  20. ptrcopp

    ptrcopp Well-Known Member


    I’m pretty sure the amount this season is still €30m allowed to be covered by investments. However, this is subject to change.

    But it would appear that any investments into any other part of the club could he swapped out of the budget in return for transfers. Owners can invest in anything except for player recruitment. There is also the ‘sale’ of tangible assets...

    There are so many ways to get around it. But for a team like Wolves or Newcastle, that €30m they get, and any further little bits they can wrangle, is massive. If spent well, it may mean more two competitive players.

    The problem with the whole FFP is that it was done in the aftermath of City’s takeover, or does seem as if it was made for them. Yet, the stadium sponsorship was the most dodgy of all, hidden behind a mask of it also being used to improve the stadium and creating a complex of facilities. But this freed up money that would have been spent on it previously as the land was purchased before the takeover.

    There are ways around it. And I doubt they would do much more than investigate or issue a slap on the wrist fine like they did before -£49m fine , £32m of which was suspended. And that’s for City, a club UEFA obviously don’t get on with. Almost every club that has broken the rules has been allowed to form an agreement with UEFA., with fines of €13m for Monaco, of which €10 suspended, and €6m for Roma.

    The whole thing is a joke.
     
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