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Wilfried Bony

evoh_1

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Almost don't want to bother posting as the weakness of the story but here it goes.

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Both would be a total waste, if we are in for another squad player like remy then hold your head in shame Arsène, if we are in for another big lad then just get benteke and be done with it.
 

Yousif Arsenal

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Bony is really good player but he coming from weak league. i'm with you here i rather we sign Benteke than Bony.
 

GunnerBP

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I hope we're not interested in either. We should be going after bigger targets.
 

kofigunner

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I haven't really watched him much but I wouldn't write him of because of the 'softer' league. Having said that, I'd prefer an established striker who can bail us out.
 

Anzac

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Bony isn't a BIG lad but he's supposedly strong.

As for coming from a 'weaker league' etc = exactly why we 'missed' the likes of Benteke & others from the Belgian league,
and I'd suspect the Dutch league would be more demanding outside the usual suspects.

The question/s SHOULD be more akin to do they fit our requirements (technical, position, role etc) and style, and are they of a relative value.

So far as their 'quality' goes look to where they got their academy education.
We have signed plenty of players from 'stronger' leagues and established academies who have been poor fits, poor players or poor mentality.
 

Cruisio

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Good player, but not the big upgrade on Giroud that we would need

Won't be coming here anyway though, saw an interview with him a few weeks back where he was very shady about heading to Russia in the Summer, think thats what will probably happen and he'll chase the big bucks
 

ArsenesNO1Fan

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31 goals in 24 games, still looks like he's a hold up guy in the Giroud mould so I can't see us being in for him.

I think this is agent talk, he's been linked to all the PL pretty much.
 

Anzac

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<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wilfried-bony-transfer-cost-arsenal-3638157" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... al-3638157</a>?

weak link etc, but for 19m release clause I'd be tempted.
If we weren't in for Balotelli he'd be an alternative to Mandzukic.

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FinnGooner

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I would think Wenger likes his strikers a tad more creative than Bony. I do to in fact. I just can't see that Wilshere's goal against Norwich happening if you imagine Giroud replaced by Bony
 

Iceman10

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Good to see some more favourable views re. Bony here. IMO there is a good deal of snobbishness for some reason, in some cases maybe because individuals haven't really seen enough of his game to recognise that he really is much more than just a target man. Right now I would put odds on him ending up at Everton though, they posted some healthy profits recently and can afford such a player now.
 

tap-in

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Anzac said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wilfried-bony-transfer-cost-arsenal-3638157" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

weak link etc, but for 19m release clause I'd be tempted.
If we weren't in for Balotelli he'd be an alternative to Mandzukic.

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For £10m would you be tempted to sign Remy? He is more of a complimentary player to Giroud than Bony, he is also a good back up CF to keep Giroud fresh. His stats also happen to be better than Bony.

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Anzac

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tap-in said:
Anzac said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wilfried-bony-transfer-cost-arsenal-3638157" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

weak link etc, but for 19m release clause I'd be tempted.
If we weren't in for Balotelli he'd be an alternative to Mandzukic.

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For £10m would you be tempted to sign Remy? He is more of a complimentary player to Giroud than Bony, he is also a good back up CF to keep Giroud fresh. His stats also happen to be better than Bony.

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TBH I'd be looking to sign both.
Remy used as a utility forward whilst Bony would be an upgrade on Giroud whilst still retaining the current style and roles.
I'd then add an attacking AM type to replace Cazorla as a Di Maria/Draxler/Firmino type who can take defenders on with the ball and score.
 

ArsenesNO1Fan

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Anzac said:
tap-in said:
Anzac said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wilfried-bony-transfer-cost-arsenal-3638157" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

weak link etc, but for 19m release clause I'd be tempted.
If we weren't in for Balotelli he'd be an alternative to Mandzukic.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.whoscored.com/Players/42705" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.whoscored.com/Players/42705</a>" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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For £10m would you be tempted to sign Remy? He is more of a complimentary player to Giroud than Bony, he is also a good back up CF to keep Giroud fresh. His stats also happen to be better than Bony.

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TBH I'd be looking to sign both.
Remy used as a utility forward whilst Bony would be an upgrade on Giroud whilst still retaining the current style and roles.
I'd then add an attacking AM type to replace Cazorla as a Di Maria/Draxler/Firmino type who can take defenders on with the ball and score.

If you buy 2 decemt but not outstanding strikers you lose your chance to get 1 in the future. Remy and Balotelli would make much more sense. Remy can play up front or wide right. Balotelli is a risk that could be world class or get lazy but if he doesn't perform you bench him for Giroud or Remy.
 

Penn_

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Would prefer Remy as he offers a different style.

I don't mind over paying if a player is exceptional such as Suarez, Cavani etc but 20-25M for Bony when we have Giroud and Sanogo just seems wrong.
 

BobP

Memri Fan
Wenger is probably looking at him because there are simply no other alternatives whom he rates. Bony is horrific when Swansea are building play, absolutely horrific, never seen a successful move go through him, it's always ruined. Would be excellent for a club like West Ham though.
 

CurryFlavoured

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Good player and probably better at Giroud with more room to improve along with that but he just isn't the quality or style of striker we should be looking for. If we end up having to sign this level of striker I'd prefer we go for Remy just because he's an alternative to Giroud and a bit cheaper, I do rate Bony though. He would have loved some of Sagna's crosses, brilliant header of a ball.
 

Wouterus

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Giroud and Bony are two very different players in my view, not sure why the two are seen as similar players by so many. I like his style of play, one of the strongest players in the Premier League and even though his style isn't graceful like Ibrahimovic or van Persie, he is actually pretty good technically. Hold up play isn't one of his strenghts, he's a goalscorer and a very good one.

Doesn't give a **** who he is playing against either. He scored 17 goals this season, a lot of them against top 7 teams:
Man united (1 goal)
Man city (2)
Sp**s (1)
Liverpool (2)
Everton (1)
Arsenal (1)
 

fabo

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Yeah, he's better than Giroud for me. Finished the season really strongly, bit like Benteke in his first year.

Not worth above 15-18m though imo.

We should have a list of fall-back options e.g Bony, Remy etc for later in the Summer if we fail to get our main targets. If we have any for CF that is.
 

CurryFlavoured

Established Member
@Wouterus

Not that they're identical but I just feel like he doesn't address the problems we've had with Giroud. One of the main threats in his game is in the air and although he has more pace than Giroud he isn't a guy who's going to be making runs in behind frequently. Same story with Mandzukic, I'm not saying all big men are the same kind of player but these guys won't solve the problems we've had with Giroud the last 2 seasons.

Özil will still be left looking for runners and Bony will often be standing isolated in the box waiting for a floated cross from Gibbs. He's better than Giroud but if we're signing this level of striker I'd at least prefer someone a bit more pacy and dynamic.
 

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