'World class'?

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by themyth, Oct 12, 2006.

  1. Alfonso

    Alfonso New Member Elite

    World Class for me is those players who consistenly play well in the big big games, i.e top of the table premiership matches, and knockout matches in CL. For example, Etto is world class has he scores and performs well in the big games, but Luis Saha isnt as he never performs well in the big games.

    This also applies to defenders and goalkeepers. For example, Ashley Cole is World Class because he raises his game and performs well when it counts(e.g v Portual in Euro 2004).
  2. patrick42uk

    patrick42uk New Member Elite

    henry lehmann gilberto and gallas. we have a lot of good young players that havent played long enough for that judgment to be made. IMO.
  3. Qwxp437

    Qwxp437 New Member

    Hleb (Best dribbler in the world)
    Rosicky (nearly complete allrounder in midfield)
    perhaps Fabregas too

    world class = one of the best in the world (= top 5 in that certain position i would say)
  4. bazza_afc

    bazza_afc New Member


    On the brink:

  5. Arnie

    Arnie New Member

    world class is somebody who is one of the best in their position, i don't like to put a numbr because sometimes there is a suplus of quality in a certain position.

    Henry, Lehmann, Fabregas

    Man U:
    Rooney, Ronaldo, Neville, Heinze

    Sheva, Ballack, Terry, Lampard

    Gerrard, Alonso
  6. Qwxp437

    Qwxp437 New Member

    i think you guys are underestimating Hleb and Rosicky!
    as i said, Rosicky is nearly perfect, only his headding is not that good (because he is not the biggest?)!
    and hleb - do you know another guy who can dribble like him?
    => both are very creative! i don`t know which players could take their place without being a loss to the team...
  7. Da New Kid

    Da New Kid New Member

    Fabregas is not world-class. He's great and he plays for us but we can't overrate them. CM are Pirlo, Xavi, Vieira, Gerrard...

    Fabregas is sure to be one of the best ever, but he's still to young and needs to learn more.

    Now Rosicky is top-notch, but in the world cup he was very irregular. He has the potential and is reaching it, its just too early to call him world-class.

    Now Henry and Gallas are proven world class players. Now wonder why they are the most well paid players in our squad.

    And Hleb is not the best dribbler in the world.... There are probably 20 brazilians better than him at dribbling.

    If we want to be a great team, we first have to know what we have. If we keep overhyping our own players the game they don't play well will be a big dissapointment for all of us.

    We have a young side with a lot of potential and only two superstars within the team: Gallas and Henry.
  8. Djourou

    Djourou New Member

    from a manutd forum:

    "I have seen Fabregas twice this season now, the other time was against us. If he isn't the best midfielder in the country I would like to know who is. A bit lightweight early on but when Arsenal went up he ran the show."
  9. PaulDavis

    PaulDavis New Member

    Thierry Henry
    Kolo Toure
    William Gallas
    Tomas Rosicky

    One of the best in their respective position.
  10. gomby2

    gomby2 New Member

    Alex Hleb is one of the best dribblers in the world. No doubt about it.
  11. BannedKwame

    BannedKwame New Member Trusted

    Henry, Gallas, and Lehmann

    And just because it's been talked about,

    Ferdinand, Heinze, VanderSar

    Gerrard, Xabi Alonso

    Ballack, Cech, Terry, Drogba, Schevchenko, Cudicini

    West Ham:

    ~15-18 world class players in the EPL.
  12. Gurgen

    Gurgen New Member Elite

    Cudicini :lol:

    Probably the most overrated player on earth. Has gifted every Premiership team countless amounts of goals and is still considered a great player. Don't know how he does it.

    Anywho, world class players at Arsenal: Lehmann, Gallas, Hleb, Henry.
  13. Soler

    Soler New Member Elite

    I dunno if he's the most overrated player on earth.

    Lampard plays for the same club. ;)
  14. Lukazan

    Lukazan New Member Elite

    We've actually got alot of world class players in our squad, IMO. More so than most other teams.

    Henry, Gallas, Toure, Hleb, Rosicky Lehmann and Gilberto.

    Fabregas, Eboue, RVP and a few others all have the potential to be there.
  15. YeahBee

    YeahBee Terrible hot takes

    that proves it all really!

    I would liek to see waht Barca fans are writing on their forums LoL they must be heartbroken

    I would add FAbregas to the mix aswell
  16. YuenBiaoFan

    YuenBiaoFan New Member Trusted

    Cesc probably is VERY close to being the best MF in this country. I would say he is.

    For me a WC player is one that could walk into the top tier teams and get in their 16.

    So we've got a lot.

    I'm inclined to agree with LuKaZaN's assessment. He's missed Henry though :D
  17. BannedKwame

    BannedKwame New Member Trusted

    So did Barthez, but it never stopped him being one of the very best. I don't think there are that many golakeepers better than Cudicini. Overrated is a ****ing whore of a word, let's just say you disagree with my opinion, and that that I think your within this particular context is completely ill formed.
  18. kel varnsen

    kel varnsen New Member Trusted

    imo a world class player is someone who can basically get into any team in the world (without weakening the side).

    at arsenal henry, gallas, lehmann and rosicky are definately world class. imo, hleb, toure, fabregas and eboue can be said to be world class footballers as well.
  19. ricky1985

    ricky1985 Active Member Elite

    I think at the top clubs the number of world class players is what makes all the difference as squads are all very similar.


    Henry - the best there is, was and will be.
    Gallas - excelled at every level and is one of the most consistent in the world.
    Toure - is awesome, anyone who says hes not world class needs there head testing.
    Lehman - not many better in the world.

    I think there are some players at Arsenal who will by the end of the season confirm thereselves as 'world class'.

    Fabregas - still has bad games, but will be the best.
    Rosicky - just needs to keep doing what hes doing for the rest of the season
    Hleb - same as Rosicky
    Eboue - carry on where he left off before his injury for the rest of this season and he'll be world class.
    RVP - got the ability just needs the consistency.

    Once these players become 'wold class'
    we will have the best team in the world. and will be even better than the 'invincibles' were. But at the moment we're not quite there, if you look at the unbeaten team we had;

    maybe Ljungberg

    who were all 'world class' and in there prime.
  20. Gurgen

    Gurgen New Member Elite

    Actually, it did stop him from being one of the very best. Barthez was a total clown who happened to play one good tournament. ManU realized this and let him go. He was picked for France on reputation, just like the other grandpa's.

    You don't drop shots every other game and be world class, sorry. It costs your team points.

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