Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Mark Tobias, Feb 25, 2019.
Thread title should be Worst performing players of 18/19 after Mustafi
So because you have unrealistic expectations he makes the 'worst performers list'? WTF
Mustafi has been poor since his injury. But he was very good prior to that.
Torreira has been trash for longer than that, but nothing to see here.
You seriously think he deserves a spot in 'the worst performers' thread though? Yes, he's had a dip in form (Like most new comers to the league experience) but you think he has been rubbish all season?
WTF is wrong with this club's fanbase.
Read what I write.
Mustafi was decent before his injury, yet he gets labelled the the worst player of the season because he's been poor lately.
Torreira in the same fashion was good before mid december but has been poor since.
Yet only one of them gets destroyed on here.
Mustafi was giving the ball away since the beginning of the season though...
Just like Torreira who cost us vs Chelsea then.
Lichsteiner for me as I was expecting a bare minimum and he couldn't even match that. He was much better in the last two appearances, though. Not enough. Mustafi a close second.
Others were all average to decent. Expected more from Özil and Ramsey but I have to consider the circumstances. Maitland-Niles also, but he's shoehorned out of position.
I expected also a bit more growth from Iwobi. Both him and Mkhi were okay this season but just not at the level required if we want to be a CL team.
He didn't consistently do that after that though did he? New leagues come with a new set of nerves.
If it was a single error then people would give Mustafi a chance but not only does he gift the opposition the ball regularly, he then blames his team mates for it as well.
Thought he had a decent game yesterday though.
11 goals and 5 assists in 19 starts and 7 sub appearances. “Hasn’t done enough”
Lacazette could play alone, win alone and achieve alone and he still wouldn't be good enough for the agenda drivers on here.
Lacazette agenda was tiring in his first year. Now it's just hilarious.
Fair point regarding both being poor yet one getting slated more.
However, the length of time with the club has to be factored in. Torreira has been here less than a year, Mustafi is in his third season & showing no signs of improving or eliminating the glaring deficiencies in his game.
Torreira on the other hand is showing immense promise & therefore getting more leeway from us fans.
Some will say Torreira , truth be told, has been poor for an extended term. Mustafi, however, is unanimously on everyone's list.
For me, I could only make 4 worst performers:
Mustafi - I genuinely think he's had a very poor season. It is one thing to make mistakes, but he often makes crucial, game-changing mistakes at very often worst time. Even when he is performing well. He's a defender I could never trust.
Lichsteiner - he seems to have gotten it together in the last couple of outings but this has less to do with quality and more to do with his age. He just seems so off the pace and past it beyond belief. He makes Bellerin look like Cafu 2.0.
Mhkitaryan - He's been injured for a chunk of the season but I think he's been very underwhelming this season. He's had some good games, but generally he's very flaky in terms of output - very often messes up attacking moves even when his role in the move is a simple one. Genuinely think he's more inconsistent than Özil, who is often bashed for his inconsistency.
Maitland-Niles - this choice hurts me greatly but so far it's been a season to forget. I accept that he's playing out of position which will influence his performance but his lack of focus and sloppy passing have really sullied most of his games this season. Must do better IMO.
People have short memories. Torreira was motm on a regular basis during our unbeaten streak, had a blip over the Christmas period, possibly due to no Winter break, who knows? He has been good in recent games though, City/Chelsea in particular, our midfielders did a brilliant job in both of those matches and Torreira was very good again yesterday in the second half.
Mustafi, Lich and maybe Ramsey/AMN would be my three so far this season.
Is that meant to be an impressive return?
Giroud-esque numbers tbh.
Lucky we have Auba to score the goals otherwise Laca's numbers would be grim reading.
Overall he has 13 goals in 32 games. Which is rather poor.
Lichsteiner is really the only one for me. His level is surprisingly bad... the other poor players just playing at their expected poor level.
He’s averaging a goal every 164 minutes and Aubameyang is averaging a goal every 135 minutes (in the league). Lacazette has started 19 games at CF and scored 10. Aubameyang has started 14 games at CF and scored 7. A similar scoring rate when played down the middle.
Let’s not pretend Auba has been that much more prolific.
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