So let me get this straight, most of us here are happy with the system we try to play on our better days, but the main problem is that Wenger hasn't gone far enough has not pursued his ideology with every weapon at his disposal but has tried to do it on the cheap, allowing his other beliefs like giving youth a chance to get in the way. Yes I would agree with that. Used with the best technical & experienced players money can buy I accept that his system can beat any side. I also accept that if you're good enough you're old (or young enough) and you should get your chance. BUT I'm sorry I don't accept putting the two beliefs together work- It's a recipe for disaster as we are witnessing and can never work, As we don't have the sort of Real (pun intended :wink: ) money to make it work properly (yet).