Yann M'Vila

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Arai, Apr 12, 2011.

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  1. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Well-Known Member

    M'Vila has to be one of the most overrated players mentioned on this forum. He is quick, but I think that's where the benefit ends. He literally sits on top of the back four, passing the ball from side to side, throwing an occasional long ball forward. He has played for the whole of his career under no pressure. He isn't a player that will be able to handle being pressured in his own half. His ball retention isn't as good as we need it to be and his distribution can often leave much to be desired. He is almost 24 and has hardly played football at the highest level.

    Liverpool can have him for all I care, just like they took Sahin, I can't see him working out.

    I'd rather have some of this.

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  2. trunks206

    trunks206 New Member

    Not this guy again. :lol:
     
  3. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    Jesus I drove myself into a frenzy with this guy last time, I really thought we would get him :) I'm pretty sure if Wenger didnt want him then, he wont want him now!
     
  4. iced22

    iced22 New Member

    Oh, I'd certainly consider Schneiderlin as another option for a DM signing.

    I'd argue though that the deep lying passer is one of the more underrated positions these days. Their position means they're the first option to pass out of the back, and pretty much all build up goes through them one way or the other. You don't need to look hard to see that every successful team of the past few years had a Carrick, a Schweinsteiger, a Busquets, etc.

    The thing is, they need to be physically capable as well, since they're usually the deepest midfielder, and that's where our problem is. Arteta isn't, or at least no longer is strong enough to handle the position, even though his passing is no worse than his contemporaries. Flamini has the mobility and power, but his passing range is.....disappointing. M'Vila can combine both player's strengths, and that's where the value lies in him.
     
  5. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Well-Known Member

    Carrick and Schweinsteiger don't just sit in their own half in between two centre halves and play 5 yard passes. Busquets has the right to do that he plays the holding role in a 4-3-3 set up. If We played 4-3-3 we could use someone like M'Vila, but in a two man set up he just doesn't have enough tools. He looks very good when he isn't pressured, but think about what teams do to us. They stick a man on Arteta and he is unable to get out or pass forward. M'Vila isn't on Arteta's level technically. He doesn't have the passing accuracy of Arteta either. He isn't as aware as Flamini. M'Vila feels comfortable sweeping. We need a player in there who can back Ramsey up in terms of pressing. We need a player to do the same job Fernandinho does for City.

    The key is having a player who does well under pressure, but who can also do all the defensive work we need. M'Vila isn't that player and if we were going for that mould I would prefer Gonalons. I really hope we get Schneiderlin, he is the perfect fit for us. He is physically very good, understands how to press, he is at the right age and is already adapted to England. £15 million is a no brainer for a 24 year old with that much experience in England.
     
  6. ArsenesNO1Fan

    ArsenesNO1Fan Well-Known Member

    Why do you think we can get Schneiderlin for 15m?
     
  7. Jasard

    Jasard Forum Issue Troubleshooter

    Didn't he kind of flop..?
     
  8. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Well-Known Member

    He is ready to move to a big club. He has no Champions League experience and is not an international footballer. How can he be worth more than £15 million? Newcastle wanted £20 million for Cabaye. Bender is an international with Champions League experience, with the ability to play in multiple positions. I can see why he would cost £24 million, however there is nothing to suggest Schneiderlin should cost in excess of £15 million and if they do ask for more, we shouldn't pay it.
     
  9. ArsenesNO1Fan

    ArsenesNO1Fan Well-Known Member

    They won't want to let their best player go cheap, they don't need the money and they splashed 15m on Wanyama themselves. To them 15m won't seem worth it.
     
  10. Bigbludfire

    Bigbludfire Well-Known Member

    Southampton are ridiculously rich now. Not Oil money rich, but they won't sell any of their players for cheap unless they want to leave.
     
  11. DanAust

    DanAust Member

    I suspect that Schneiderlin may have signed under the proviso that that let him go if a big club comes in for him just based on the language he uses when he talks about his ambition; he doesn't sound like a big who thinks he'll be at Southampton for life
     
  12. Jebka23

    Jebka23 Active Member

  13. Bananacoffee

    Bananacoffee Well-Known Member

    It's back on boys!!
     
  14. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Prefers To Be Called Dennis

    But we have Coquelin, who is million times better player.
     
  15. Aevi

    Aevi Smooth Moderator

    If he were to understand that he would be backup for a while until he proves himself in a big way, I would have no problem at all taking him. Seeing as he is somewhat talented and at Sunderland, I think he would be fine with that, so why not?
     
  16. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    What's Wenger going to do with 2 young French defensive midfieiders?

    We aren't signing a DM.
     
  17. Aevi

    Aevi Smooth Moderator

    Coquelin isn't exactly young, but I get what you mean. I don't think M'Vila is too likely, but it's appealing to have such decent rotation in that area is what I mean.
     
  18. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    Coq turned 24 this year, pretty young.
     
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  19. Bananacoffee

    Bananacoffee Well-Known Member

    Yes we do but we don't, Coq is injured and could be out for the season. Knee injuries are tricky and we all know how we handle injuries - one month turns into six.

    I rate M'Vila, his ability is exceptional, however it remains to be seen if he can stay focused. Think he would be good here until Coq returns, but how will he handle competition later on? that is the big question mark.
     
  20. Bananacoffee

    Bananacoffee Well-Known Member

    What does nationality have to do with it?

    We've always had two midfielders capable of filling the defensive role, albeit much worse quality than Coquelin and M'Vila.
     
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