You Petr Cech Yourself Before You Wreck Yourself

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Rex Banner, Jun 29, 2015.

  1. Dj_sds -

    Dj_sds - Well-Known Member

    Since his arrival he has apologized more for **** ups than hes made penalty saves. Says enough really.
     
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  2. tap-in

    tap-in :-)

    Give it a few more games and 7th could be ours!

    I agree completely re our defence, I cant remember us having a defence this bad and that's going back quite a while. Same with our keeper, Arsenal always had a top keeper but it changed when Seaman retired. Lehmann was ok but it was the start of our decline, not only with the GK but the whole defense. Wengers failure to address our defensive weaknesses over the years (eg when TV5 left and we didnt sign a replacement) have enabled the defence to become more and more vulnerable culminating in the disaster we now have in front of a past it keeper. We really need 2 new starting CB's and a GK but I know we wont get it.
     
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    I cant see Ospina staying after this summer. He's too good to be a No 2 and not good enough to be our No 1.
     
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  4. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mmhmm yes, I agree

    Why some can't see this is beyond me. Lehmann was okay but I distinctly remember thinking 'Seaman was better than this' at the time. Then as you say the rot set in and by the time Cech was in decline and leaving Chelsea, we'd fallen so low that we still thought him to be great. Which he was, for six months.
     
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    Yes that combined with a defence that wasnt as strong as our previous defences, no wonder we became top 6 rather than top 4. Wenger always seems to wait for players to decline, rather than acting prior to their decline. He did it with Per, now Kos & Cech, and the players he's brought in, Mustafi, Chambers & Holding are nowhere near the level we need to seriously challenge.
     
  6. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mmhmm yes, I agree

    Don;t think lumping Kos in there is fair. We got him when he was 24. Your point stands though
     
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    I'm talking about Kos for the past season, we all knew he was declining but Wenger relied on him to be at his best. Thats what I meant by Wenger not acting prior to a players decline.
     
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  8. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mmhmm yes, I agree

    Sorry, I misunderstood that. We agree then.

    Really frustrating. Is Wenger hoping Cech will be the next Van Der Sar?
     
  9. KrissKringle

    KrissKringle Well-Known Member

    I never said that and I agree that he's past it. He was ever since he signed for us and we should have realized we were getting sloppy seconds from Chelsea, but the name blinded our judgement too much.
    Now, if you were implying that we lost valuable points because of Cech letting in soft goals that other keepers would save, that can hardly be considered as fact, because even the best goalkeepers will have brain farts every now and then.

    Cech needs to be replaced, there's no doubt about it, but he's not our biggest problem at the moment, because our defense is playing like every man for himself and the coaching staff doesn't seem to give them a hand, or they don't listen. It's possible that it's a little bit of both.
    Aside from that, our defensive midfielders aren't doing their jobs very well and neither are our attacking players. We simply lack a clear ideology in terms of how we play and pointing the finger at Cech for points lost is wrong, because he's just another cog in the wheel.
     
  10. KrissKringle

    KrissKringle Well-Known Member

    It doesn't hurt that they're 10 and respectively 8 years younger than Cech, who will be 36 next month.
     
  11. field442

    field442 Abandoned Emery because of Cech

    This clown has just been given the no.1 jersey. If we don't buy a keeper we riot.
     
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  12. Sobotka

    Sobotka Well-Known Member

  13. Lady_Gooner

    Lady_Gooner That's Mrs. Ramsey to you buster!

    Just going to pray it’s just a shirt number and means very little
     
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  14. say yes

    say yes Respect Me

    Emery really needs to speed up those English lessons.

    He said ‘number 1 player on the transfer list’ surely?
     
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  15. Furious

    Furious Elneny on, telly off

    Who was no.1 before this season,.. goes back to Chesney?
     
  16. NieThePiet

    NieThePiet Part Time Werder Bremen Fan

    I'm in fear. Why don't give the new keeper the Nr.1 and Cech can stay with his number?
     
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  17. krengon

    krengon One Arsene Wenger Trusted

    I can't take another season of him as 1st choice..
     
  18. field442

    field442 Abandoned Emery because of Cech

    We'll still sign a keeper but i hate it when the no.1 isn't actually no.1. Chances are we sign a keeper and they fight it out to see who starts in the league.
     
  19. THunter

    THunter Are you not entertained? Trusted

    How many bottles of bleach can you drink before you die?
     
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  20. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Still Not a Mod

    I'm on my third mate, it's a long slog.
     

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