Zel Time has come

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by yuvken, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. yuvken

    yuvken New Member Elite

    OK - easy to get carried away, and many will tell me soon (rightly) to cool off. We are still a few years away from his reign.

    But honestly - how many of you, despite the ridiculous amount of play time we actually watched (for most of us it's two debuts: the u-21 debut, and the first team, 45 minutes debut against a nothing team, where he touched the ball not too many times. and some you tube clips) doubt that this is something big? I don't.

    Reserve thread for this? nah. It is he. And we get to talk about all things concerning the new era (cos we don't have player threads :angel ) in here. This will be a long ride - enjoy it.
     
  2. AliBabaBrewer

    AliBabaBrewer New Member

    This thread could go one of two ways:
    - A 110+ page thread that will go on for a few seasons and pick up pace the more he features in the Carling Cup (Or whatever it's called now) and then FA Cup 3rd round, etc etc, until he becomes a first team sub, whereby he'll get a new thread discussing how he'll do in the team.

    OR

    - One of those threads we hash up in about 5 years time, and say 'Jesus, look how we all went mental over that guy that ended up as nothing, in a Quincy Owusu-Abeyie/Abou Diaby fasion'
     
  3. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    I've not seen nearly enough of him yet to say. Have you been on the Gin? :D
     
  4. THunter

    THunter NOT In A Caravan Trusted

    Seen him play today plus the highlights from the Liverpool game and I think it's safe to say, he's better than Messi.
     
  5. DJ_Markstar

    DJ_Markstar Well-Known Member

    Looks pretty good so far, but very early days. Could be the next Ali Dia. Want to see some CC action from the lad this season, will be good to see what he does against lower league opposition.
     
  6. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    So he was very good today, and produced one absolutely mesmerising pass.... I've just watched all his youtube best bits, and saw that he's only 16! I thought I was watching a slight 20 year old. I must say, he plays with the same maturity I only ever saw in Cesc at the same age. That's what swung it for me with Cesc at the time. That's what left me in no doubt back then. Frightening.
     
  7. yuvken

    yuvken New Member Elite

    That is exactly how I feel, jury. Same thing that says: we know nothing, and we've seen presumed prodigies bite the dust. But - woah! what in the world is that! This is very, very special.

    Those who didn't watch the game today - there was another pass like that, was incorrectly ruled offside (refs in general were, errr, the level of the local boys), but all this is nothing. It's that feeling. We had it with cesc. We had some version of it with Jack. (in some instances Gnabs and ox have a bit of that). But boy, does he have it.

    Looks like the absolute anti hero. doesn't inspire you to expect something special coming from that skinny boy. But my advice to you: start following. Ignore the necessary bad games and periods he'll surely have. I'd be more than just surprised if he doesn't deliver - he's going to be a world class player.
     
  8. oh to be a goon

    oh to be a goon New Member

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    Finally Arsenal have someone with a North American accent. Now I can actually understand what one of our players is saying :lol:
     
  9. yybecause

    yybecause Formerly known as ArsenaLover

    Only thing I disagree is that we had that feeling 'at some version' with Jack.

    Jack had it all, form the first time my eye saw him. And I am sure we all did, but somehow, cause of his injury and moving to AM after coming back, people forget what they felt before.

    I was in Austria for Arsenal preseason, 1st one Jack had with first team, and it was insane. He was by far best player every single day on the training ground. Every touch, move, skill... Rip was there, Cesc too, and all other players we had, but it was Jack who shined, and made it so obvious he is very special player. And he did it every time he played for reserves from that day, just like 1st team.

    I hate people forgetting that.
     
  10. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    @ Yuv - He was hard to follow today, as the blurry stream and distance from the pitch made it really hard to tell most of our players apart. Add the foreign commentary, and the only time I ever knew anyone had done something good was when they scored and you got the close-up!

    I saw the incorrectly ruled off-side pass and thought it was Ox playing it. It was a superb pass, and a full meter ON side. Terrible decision.

    A German with Ethiopian genes too! Could he have a better base to work from?!
     
  11. yuvken

    yuvken New Member Elite

    Actually had a rather uninterrupted stream, and could tell immediately as it happened it was him passing, and that it was absolutely out of this world. There wasn't too much else about his game, but for the stuff we (the nutters) can already identify: that movement, anticipation, cool on the ball, the turn and change direction. But such moments of inspiration and perfect execution leave you with a lower jaw you have to lift back from the floor.

    Arsenal lover - what are you on about? we had it with Jack. It was a version of that. "Some version" - not the cesc version, or others. Nobody's forgetting anything at all. And that's quite a list of special talents Jack appears on to begin with. Chill, mate. :lol:
     
  12. yybecause

    yybecause Formerly known as ArsenaLover

    I probably didnt understand you best :)
    More then 80% people in lobby forgot how good and special Jack was, and still is, and it drove me nuts... Maybe thats why I fume as soon as I see Jack's name and something I think is against him :D


    My stream was fine too, and even had one with English commentators, but actually turn it off and switched back to Arabian, cause those stupids couldnt guess our players at all.
    They kept on calling Akpom by Chuks Aneke name, Gnarby was Ox, Theo was Gnarby, etc etc... so annoying and at times confusing
     
  13. jmsmtthw28

    jmsmtthw28 Well-Known Member Trusted

    Zelalem vs Indonesian Dream Team
    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UCgp_lzZr8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UCgp_lzZr8</a>
    He'll be in the Arsenal team by the age of 19-20, just needs to bulk up and I want to see if he's clinical in front of goal

    For people who need to see more of him this was his performance against Liverpool <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73N8uiplH90" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73N8uiplH90</a>

    Zelalem is very strong technically, the way he shields the ball is a delight to watch , he reads the game very well (made 3 interceptions today and always kept the ball moving) and he has Cesc's vision.

    If he's got a good engine on him and he bulks up a lot (he's got a pretty good height) then I think he would be perfect for the CM role rather than CAM where he's playing in the reserves.
    Wilshere - CAM, Zelalem - CM and Kondogbia - CDM could be the future
     
  14. yybecause

    yybecause Formerly known as ArsenaLover

    He has Ethiopian blood running true his veins, sure he has good engine :)
     
  15. Wrighty4eva

    Wrighty4eva Well-Known Member

    This thread is a little premature, he hasn't even featured in a CC game yet, hes barely played two games for Arsenal :shock:
     
  16. redanddread

    redanddread The stone that the builders refuse

    He does seem to have that Cesc like confidence and composure with ball at feet and has the eye for the killer pass.
     
  17. Sydney Gooner

    Sydney Gooner New Member

    He's looks more like Xavi than Cesc than to me.
     
  18. jmsmtthw28

    jmsmtthw28 Well-Known Member Trusted

    <a class="postlink" href="http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/zelalem-emphasises-potential-to-all-with-composed-display/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/2013/ ... d-display/</a>

    Zelalem has no problem keeping possession when he's closed down, its actually one of his biggest strengths but he has problem holding players off.
    He lacks upper body strength and it will take him at least a couple of years to really fill out.

    Technically he's similar to Özil imo but his passing style is similar to Xavi
     
  19. Rain Dance

    Rain Dance Well-Known Member Trusted

    When he receive the Ballon d'Or, I can say I was there in beginning. 8))
     
  20. yuvken

    yuvken New Member Elite

    :D Yes, something like that, Rain.
    Happily you're out of that dungeon. We don't talk stupid here (at least we try; or we're sent right back there :) ). Anyway, you'd be hard pressed to find me not on Jack's side. But in terms of that special feeling, he didn't rank as high as Cesc (though indeed he was special since a very young age).

    @jms - thanx, nice touch, good contribution (as always).
    By the time Zelalem plays for the first team, you'd have Crowley there as well (extreme hype warning :) )
    Yes, it sure is. Like we care.
    Don't know if I would put these tags on him ATM. He sure has the eye for the pass that one in a million players has (and in that whether it's xavi or cesc really matters little). But the was he moves at least looks different from both (many times his movement reminded me of Gilberto, at least when he stayed in a more covering role; though he opens himself up more like the previous two mentioned). The outrageous pass was an outside of the foot pass too (a bit Rosickiesque that), and it's far too early to tell how his attacking play will develop. I can see why Jms feels there's Özil there too. Whichever way it goes, it looks good at this time.
     

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