Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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  1. albakos

    albakos Arséne Wenger: "I will miss you" Administrator

    After Messi rumours now we have Zlatan.

    Next week it will be Lewa as it seems the rumour mill is linking us with best players of top leagues around Europe.
     
  2. GoonerJeeves

    GoonerJeeves Up The Terriers

    I can see him sitting on his arse, with his hands outstretched, quite a lot...
     
  3. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Prefers To Be Called Dennis

    Messi Zlatan
    Sanchez - Coquelin - Arteta - Ramsey
    Monreal - Koscielny - Gabriel - Bellerin
    Cech
     
  4. Malky

    Malky Well-Known Member

    Messi, Zlatan and you've put Arteta in there? Have a word with yourself!:lol:
     
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  5. GabeGooner

    GabeGooner Well-Known Member

    It's not really about speed, though. It's more about his movement and style of play. Özil needs someone in front of him that plays like Benzema or Ronaldo – someone who runs (without the ball) towards goal and waits for the killer pass. Ibrahimovic isn't really like that – and that's our problem with Giroud.
     
  6. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Zlatan is the obvious exception when we're talking about having a striker whoi sn't the quickest. You take Zlatan because he's levels above Giroud in every other way, and he's still quicker than him despite being 34! If he didn't score 30 goals in a season for us, I'd pull my balls off.
     
  7. GabeGooner

    GabeGooner Well-Known Member

    The reason we're not functioning properly as a collective is because some of our key players are suited to a different style of football. Giroud, like Ibrahimovic, needs quick, direct service (preferably from wingers) so he can gain an advantage over defenders. Our midfield plays a short, side-to-side possession game, and that's why Giroud doesn't work as well as we want him to; and that's why Ibrahimovic – whilst being a far more accomplished player – isn't likely to be a significant upgrade.

    I'm not sure why people think Ibrahimovic will succeed playing Arsenal's brand of football when he failed playing Barcelona's. It's not like Arsenal have better players than Barcelona did (when Ibrahimovic was there), and it's not like we play in a more direct way than they do – in fact, we're even less direct.
     
  8. Penn_

    Penn_ Established Member

    Ibra has traits and skills that Giroud lacks, the only thing that would put me off is the wage/age.

    For someone that 'needs' a quick striker Özil sure is playing well lately.
     
  9. Malky

    Malky Well-Known Member

    :lol: Comparing Giroud to Zlatan is ****ing insanity, ones world class and the other is somewhere around the decent-good level. Zlatan would destroy teams in this league, regardless of pace or age. Look at the chances we create for Giroud, Zlatan would bag 30plus goals a season here. Don't kid yourself that "our style doesn't suit him"
     
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  10. Dokaka

    Dokaka AM's resident Hammer

    This makes it sound like the type of striker is more important than the actual quality of the player. The whole argument that Zlatan isn't a perfect fit is redundant when he's better in every single aspect of the game compared to Giroud.

    That argument goes both ways as well. You're basically saying that replacing Giroud with Rudy Gestede wouldn't make much of a difference because they're similar players.

    Also, you say he "failed" at Barca (which he arguably did, for various reasons), yet that season equaled Giroud's best ever season for Arsenal. Reckon that says a lot; Giroud's ceiling is Zlatan's floor.
     
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  11. GabeGooner

    GabeGooner Well-Known Member

    Well, does it not make sense that different styles of play require different types of players?

    If we play a possession game, with no service from the flanks because the ball is recycled into the centre, are we likely to get the best out of a target man? I don't think anyone would suggest it works for us now.

    If we play a target man ahead of a CAM (who plays killer balls) and two inside forwards, are we likely to see a fluid attack? Personally, I don't think we're close to being fluid unless Walcott leads the line.

    And all of that said, whilst Ibrahimovic is undoubtedly the better player, if he's given the same service as Giroud, I don't think there will be a gulf in class between what he or Giroud can do for Arsenal. Perhaps Ibrahimovic will score more goals, but we won't get the best out of him – just like we don't Giroud.
     
  12. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Knows a guy who knows an ITK at Bristol Trusted

    I would be worried about his body packing in if we got him, with players over 32 you never really know when they're just going to drop off completely.

    He'll be 35 if we get him, I'd buy him but it'd be a massive gamble. He could look like Drogba did last year for all we know.
     
  13. Bananacoffee

    Bananacoffee Well-Known Member

    Drogba was shiet since 2012 though, Zlatan still looks like a top athlete whenever I watch him, pulling off some incredible stuff.

    I agree his age is a worry, but it's the only one and I don't think he'll turn into Falcao II over the course of a season.
     
  14. 4R5Emaniac

    4R5Emaniac Always fresh from Bangladesh

    This would be a dream transfer for me. It would totally change everything around Arsenal to bring in a Zlatan like figure. I have doubts about him fitting in AND more so benefiting the team, overall-His movement is his biggest weak point- but it would be worth the gamble. The perception of Arsenal everywhere would start to change and that can only attract more positive. Having an absolute superstar with that sort of personality.
     
  15. skip spence

    skip spence Well-Known Member

    Zlatan, at 34, is still very good, make no mistake. But for how much longer will he be able to maintain that level? Anyway, I don't see this happening. He's one of the highest paid athletes in the world and he'd accept no less than a 2 year contract with a weekly salary of probably trice what our top earner makes. Can't see Wenger making that gamble even if big Z would be interested himself.
     
  16. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Why is it every player that gets sold by Barca is deemed to have failed there? :lol:

    16 goals in 23 starts and 6 sub appearances, with 30 assists?

    Can someone please explain to me how that equates to 'failure'? Never mind his goal ratio, he's got more assists than appearances ffs! And that's just his league games record!

    I know of a certain No.10 that wouldn't mind having that stat, and let me tell you, that man is godly :rolleyes:
     
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  17. Furious

    Furious Xhaka Propagandist

    Wtf. 30 assists? :lol: No one has ever had so many assists in a league season ffs.

    He had 7 assists for them. Stop using #GdeepStats, it's no more reliable than Wayne Gooney is for tranfers.
     
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  18. Furious

    Furious Xhaka Propagandist

    Btw. sad that your hatred for Özil makes you so blind that you believe in such rubbish just to have a dig at him.:lol:
     
  19. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    I got that from the Barca stat site ffs.

    7 assists in 29 league appearances isn't too shabby either. Pretty sure our own prince struggled to get 7 assists in 29 games at his low point.

    His stats are still impressive, and anything but that of a 'failure'.
     
  20. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    im using him as a barometer of 'success'. Cant you swallow it?
     
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