SomGooner
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Casillas has always been a gentleman and one of the few Spanish players I've always admired.
SomGooner said:RVP has only 1 prolific season in his entire career so take him out of the equation.
SomGooner said:There was a time when only Thierry Henry scored more goals in the premier league than Yakubu.
SomGooner said:I understand that we’re in an era where Spain is dominating the world of football and it’s only fair that their strikers will be mentioned but the truth is both Villa and Torres are not even fit to lick Eto’o’s boots and for Rooney and RVN...Please!
SomGooner said:Had Eto’o being born European he would’ve won Ballon D’or few years ago when he came third (Lampard finished 2nd to Ronaldinho) as he had a better season than Ronaldinho that year and deserved to win both Ballon D’or and World Player of the year but I guess being African will always work against you especially in the eyes of the bias Europeans.
SomGooner said:Like I said European strikers have quantity over Africans thanks to Europe having the best leagues but never quality especially the current generation where even a player like Kalou would fancy his chance against them and I’m not even going to mention Mounir El Hamdaoui, Ryad Boudebouz, Belhanda, Adebayor, Cisse, Ba, Seydou Doumbia, Moussa Sow, Alain Traore, Didier Ya Konan, Andre Ayew and many others.
SomGooner said:Had Eto’o being born European he would’ve won Ballon D’or few years ago when he came third (Lampard finished 2nd to Ronaldinho) as he had a better season than Ronaldinho that year and deserved to win both Ballon D’or and World Player of the year but I guess being African will always work against you especially in the eyes of the bias Europeans.
Irish_Owen said:That's just extremely hard to believe, for the simple reason being that it's not true.outlaw_member said:I absolutely agree. Spain indeed were in cruise control throughout the tournament, and barely had to step out of first gear. I think we all know that they could have upped the tempo, when and if they wanted to, but the gulf was so big between them and the rest, that they didn't really need to.
Why would a team choose to jeopardize their place in the tournament on multiple occasions, including the semi-final where they had to go to penalties to see off Portugal? If Spain had more to give, we'd have seen it a lot earlier.
AFC-Phil said:Villa and RvN were both at a similar level to Eto'o. Villa's only the top goalscorer in Spain's history over the likes of Butragueno and Raul... RvN is one of the greatest strikers in PL history, and pretty much carried Madrid to La Liga champions in 06/07 on his own. I don't recall Eto'o dragging Barca over the line in the same way RvN did.
You are worthy winners if you win the cup without cheating or referee bias, nothing more nothing less.Bossa said:Its the best team that wins the Cup nothing more nothing less.
Let me break this down for you.
1970: Brazil(Mexico): Brazil arguably the best national side ever
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2010: Spain(South Africa) Best side by far won
It is exactly the same phenomenon when a player has a strong end of season and some fans tend to think that the player had a good season overall even if he was terrible in the first six months and vice verse.Wouterus said:Spain were only great in the final. The rest of the tournament they were not that impressive. After the fantastic performance against Italy, some people seem to forget that.
If it was not for Ronaldos mysterious illness/collapse it is very likely that Bossa would have talked about Brazil being the dominant force instead.Rain Dance said:1998 - everyone remember how suddenly Ronaldo got a mysterious illness on the night of the final, making his team choke at the last hurdle.
before the opening whistle starting, everyone was betting on Ronaldo on winning the WC 98. so NO France was not the best team as you stated. Ro-Ro combo and their midfielders were a reminiscent of the 70's squad. FIFA rank them number 1. while France needed a silver goal against Paraguay in the quarter.
Time zone is debatable but the role of this factor has decreased as more of the best South American players generally play in European clubs nowadays. I suppose that your opinion is that the European teams travel early in order to adjust to the new time zone and the new environment. However, Brazil may have an extra advantage on top of being the host nation if some of their starters play in South American clubs and don't have to travel back from Europe.Bossa said:It doesnt matter where you play the best team will win the Cup unless if you're playing against a team with home advantage. I mean why would Brazil have an advantage over Spain or France or another European side when they are playing in Mexico or USA. Time zone doesnt really matter. The climate doesn't really matter either.
The talk about golden generation is often initiated before a tournament but it will explode afterwards if the team goes on to win (if they are a tradtional title contender like Brazil, Germany, Argentina, Italy) or have huge success compared to the expectations (Sweden 1994, Croatia 1998, South Korea 2002). If the so called golden generation team is a favourite and then becomes knocked out early the talk about them being the golden generation is often down played heavily in the collective memory.jerome2158 said:are golden generations deemed as such as the result of tournament wins, or do tournament wins come from golden generations?
Take France for example, would anyone consider 1998 to be their golden generation had they lost the final? It seems that moniker is always applied after they win.
When you edit your post, you will find the delete button just above "Subject". I suppose that it is only possible to delete a post if it is the last post of the thread.Rain Dance said:deleted.
where's the delete post button?
SomGooner said:@AFC-Phil, Yakubu never played for the third most successful club in England
SomGooner said:Villa is nowhere near Butragueño and Raul but he's lucky to be playing in an era where Spanish national team happen to be the best team in the world and create chances for fun and even Bent will end up having stats that will better or rival the best in business.
SomGooner said:Ruud Van Nistelrooy won La Liga for Real but Eto'o never helped Barca win anything? Nice one.
True, but Ibrahimovic has won eight consecutive league titles (2004-2011). Eto'o can't beat that.GDeep said:Eto'o pips Ibra for me, 3 Champions League Medals - first goal scorer in two of those victories.
AFC-Phil said:I don't recall Eto'o dragging Barca over the line in the same way RvN did.
Wouterus said:True, but Ibrahimovic has won eight consecutive league titles (2004-2011). Eto'o can't beat that.GDeep said:Eto'o pips Ibra for me, 3 Champions League Medals - first goal scorer in two of those victories.
It doesn't really matter, but he scored the hat-trick against Olympiakos.SomGooner said:Yakubu played against Utd in the champions league while at Maccabi Haifa and scored a hat-trick against them and that's not a mean feat but you think he wasn't good enough to do a decent job for bigger clubs, the same clubs that he seemed to enjoy playing against and consistently score against.
AnthonyG said:but he scored the hat-trick against Olympiakos.
future heroes said:When you edit your post, you will find the delete button just above "Subject". I suppose that it is only possible to delete a post if it is the last post of the thread.Rain Dance said:deleted.
where's the delete post button?
Wouterus said:Ibrahimovic > Eto'o for me, although I can understand why people think otherwise. The rest I agree with.