Mancheater City: 115

[Tnegs]

FFP wasn’t a thing when we first had the takeover and built a team able to compete. I don’t agree we was a nothing club we won league titles before the money in the 70s and 60s and one of the first sides who’s still in existence to win an Fa Cup. Hold the second highest ever home attendance at an home game in English football for when it was all standing. Had more trophies than Leeds before the money would you say they are small. Also had 35k every week watching us in every division with thousands going to every away match so we’ve always had a decent size of core supporters

And do you think you have complied with FFP rules that were introduced in 11/12? Has there been any deliberate effort to circumvent the rules in order to maintain the spending necessary?

 

[Synical]

Can’t cheat on kit and merchandise sales at least.

I bet the owners bought half of them

 

[lomekian]

FFP wasn’t a thing when we first had the takeover and built a team able to compete. I don’t agree we was a nothing club we won league titles before the money in the 70s and 60s and one of the first sides who’s still in existence to win an Fa Cup. Hold the second highest ever home attendance at an home game in English football for when it was all standing. Had more trophies than Leeds before the money would you say they are small. Also had 35k every week watching us in every division with thousands going to every away match so we’ve always had a decent size of core supporters

I don't think anyone disagrees with anything in this paragraph, but equally a very impressive dodging of the bit of the question about the charges.

City were always the underachieving big club that most people quite liked because of the humour of the fan base, and they have spectacualarly become the opposite and are happy to be a propoganda tool that uses political back channels to circumnavigate the rules.

Under the pre oil money influx, I had no problem with City. A bit of money, a bit of success, even poaching our players was fair enough as the pit wasn't bottomless and it was a mans ego trip rather than a state tool. The current ownership, and any such state owners are for me an evil blight on the sport, because its nothng to do with sport - its all soft power and the likes of City, Newcastle and PSG have truly sold their soul. Even Chelsea under Abramovich were still a personal plaything (and assasination insurance).

 

[jones]

I actually asked a similar question in the Arsenal finances thread about Sp**s. These figures are being quoted in multiple sources and there is a report done by UEFA which confirms many of the figures quoted.

Which European clubs earned the most from kit sales in 2023?

Not surprisingly, Real Madrid and Manchester United make the top 10 of clubs with the highest kit revenues across Europe, but who else makes the cut?

www.espn.co.uk

UEFA kit and merchandising report is on page 61.

https://cdn.vev.design/private/aTCxVXgBbmVvmw45NvpIseApVuy2/26ptkb-uefa-ecfil-report-2023.pdf

Still not sure I'm buying it, nobody knows what a Topspur is outside of England.

Probably Levy cooking the books somehow.

 

[Tnegs]

Still not sure I'm buying it, nobody knows what a Topspur is outside of England.

Probably Levy cooking the books somehow.

Take CL revenue out of the equation and their total revenue would be about the same as ours. I don’t get it either.

 

[Batman]

Take CL revenue out of the equation and their total revenue would be about the same as ours. I don’t get it either.

I've mentioned this here before, NYC has got tons of casual to diehard football fans. I have seen more Villa kits than Spud kits here and probably 3/4 the time when I see a Spud kit, it's a Korean or Korean-American person with Son on the back. Nobody rates them here and we've got probably the best cross section of the global community as it were on earth. Here it's Barca, Madrid, United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea in that order in terms of the kits I see the most walking around.

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

Still not sure I'm buying it, nobody knows what a Topspur is outside of England.

Probably Levy cooking the books somehow.

Aren't Sp**s the most supported club in North London though? They'll be the most supported club in South Korea for sure.

 

[TornadoTed]

Just to add to the debate, in Mid Wales you see Man Utd and Liverpool shirts predominantly. Arsenal, Villa and Wolves are pretty common, I hardly ever see a Sp**s shirt.

 

[jones]

Aren't Sp**s the most supported club in North London though? They'll be the most supported club in South Korea for sure.

 

[Sapient Hawk]

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Tied with Pool & less than United in their own backyard?!!

F*cking Sp**s spursing up the title race for most supporters too

 

[Tnegs]

Going back to the kit and merchandising revenue bit, the reason why I posted it was because I found it quite interesting that City who generate only slightly more than half as much revenue as Pool and Utd from this segment still managed to record total commercial revenue of 341m compared to Liverpool at 272m and Utd at 303m.

 

[Batman]

Going back to the kit and merchandising revenue bit, the reason why I posted it was because I found it quite interesting that City who generate only slightly more than half as much revenue as Pool and Utd from this segment still managed to record total commercial revenue of 341m compared to Liverpool at 272m and Utd at 303m.

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[Elliot Houghton]

Going back to the kit and merchandising revenue bit, the reason why I posted it was because I found it quite interesting that City who generate only slightly more than half as much revenue as Pool and Utd from this segment still managed to record total commercial revenue of 341m compared to Liverpool at 272m and Utd at 303m.

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The benefits of having incredible business people at the club and loads of prize money from winning so many trophies

 

[Tnegs]

The benefits of having incredible business people at the club and loads of prize money from winning so many trophies

I’m gonna give you credit for avoiding the charges question instead of telling lies.

Prize money is recorded under broadcast revenue not commercial.

 

[Batman]

Any pervert who does this in public has done something that carries a charge with it. The way to beat him might just be setting up a sting.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

F**k them f**k these UAE c**ts who has unlimited money that they got bored and say let's just buy these sorry bastards and make them best club in world all that won't be happening if this c**t Mansoor invested at something else.

 

[Beany]

City hearing is in August, I was told tonight, listed for 5-8 weeks.

 

[BaZZe]

City hearing is in August, I was told tonight, listed for 5-8 weeks.

Will the hearing start before the start of the new season?

If the Premier League ACTUALLY wanted to make City stop dragging this process out endlessly there was a simple solution all along. Just say "Okay, until you actually comply with our investigation you're suspended from competing in the EPL". They'd stop dragging their feet then for sure.

 

[Beany]

Will the hearing start before the start of the new season?

If the Premier League ACTUALLY wanted to make City stop dragging this process out endlessly there was a simple solution all along. Just say "Okay, until you actually comply with our investigation you're suspended from competing in the EPL". They'd stop dragging their feet then for sure.

Should start around the same time but if won’t finish till a month or two in and I imagine judgment will be reserved - plus further delay till (any) punishment is calculated. And any appeal pursued.

But at least it will be resolved next season.

 

[jones]

City hearing is in August, I was told tonight, listed for 5-8 weeks.

Is this going to be in a proper court or some dodgy tribunal for sports matters?