lamby22
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That's a good read. Sam Lee is usually spot on in his City stuff.
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Life after Wenger | Ornstein: Arsenal set to appoint Unai Emery
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That's a good read. Sam Lee is usually spot on in his City stuff.
Slartibartfast
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Must have some digital partnership. The Sporting News was once one of the biggest names in sports media in America (it was known as "The Bible of Baseball"). But in the internet age it's no longer very relevant.
SingmeasongSong
Right Sometimes
There's no question about Ancelotti's past achievements but his work over the last years has shown as well that he isn't up there with top class managers of the new age.
He was coaching the best squad on earth at Madrid and then went on to coach a prime Bayern side and both times was absolutely underachieving to say the least. Sure, Zidane may have done exceptional work but what Ancelotti managed to get out of that Madrid squad was poor and without any real concept. It isn't only because of Zidane that this team is winning for fun but it was high time for that squad to be honest. Then again, he did not really show any improvement on that in Munich trying to give the same freedome to their players which meant Bayern completely lost what they had gained under Heynckes and Pep.
I'm not against a more proven manager, would gladly take Allegri, Jardim, Favre or Nagelsmann over Arteta but at least he provides something new which, for me, Ancelotti is no longer capable of.
ArtetaCognition
Granit Xhaka Enthusiast
Country: Ireland
Arteta sounds like a great coach. Should maybe hire him as the assistant's assistant.
LG10
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Not with our squad he wouldn't. He only works with super squads where his role is to handle all the big egos and let them do their thing. We need a coach.
kraphtous
Raul Stanllehi
We reached a semi final „without a coach“ this year
Next year with Aubameyang, we could easily reach the semifinals again, only someone like Ancelotti would make us go all the way through once we were there.
Player:Martinelli
I can't wait for Arteta to turn Welbeck into prime Drogba.
Slartibartfast
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Winning the Champions League is underachieving? Wow. Even at Bayern it was Real Madrid that knocked his team out and he won the league by 15 points with a +67 goal difference. Those are some unreasonably high standards you're holding him to there. Especially when you rate a CL title and a Bundesliga title as less than the experience of a novice. You've been reading too much reactionary fan stuff on the internet.
Arteta might be a fine manager someday, but he also might not. Even if he is, the chances of him being the next Pep Guardiola are very low. Especially with a club on a limited budget. He would be better prepared for Arsenal if he got some experience somewhere else first. I almost get the feeling that some think he would look good on the sideline and that may be the case. But when it comes to coaching he's no Carlo Ancelotti. And almost certainly never will be.
Pretty sure the same sentiment was expressed when Graham was fired and "Wenger Who" was brought in.
I'm getting really tired of the doom and gloom in this thread, especially since no announcement has been made yet.
Vinci
The Sultan of Unai
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Did you get a receipt so you could ask for your money back?
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https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...e-north-bank-redemption-Arsène-wenger-arsenal
That shot at the end ffs
That shot at the end ffs
Country: England
Arteta won’t have a say in players. Can’t decide if that’s good or bad.
Slartibartfast
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You're not familiar with his work at Reggiana or Parma then? Or his early days at Milan when he took over a squad that had slumped to 6th in the table and built them into a super squad?
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Nope it works more like when a dog pee on the floor, you let him lick all the pee. When you buy a bad blow, you gotta blow it all with tears in yours eyes.
Slartibartfast
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But "Arsène Who" was a product of ignorance since Wenger had managed for 12 seasons and won a Ligue 1 title at Monaco. In today's reality, Wenger would have been as well-known as Jardim if Arsenal were to bring him in. He was not a complete novice, never having managed a game, brought in to manage a squad of his former teammates after only two years as an assistant coach. Not sure why it's so difficult to discern that difference.
KrissKringle
Reinventing VAR 😡
I doubt that, because Wenger, as opposed to Arteta, had won the league and the cup in France, then two cups in Japan.
If anything, it was the ignorance of the media and people in England that made them skeptical, although it was a sign of the times, since you couldn't keep track of every coach in the world as easily as you can now.
The sentiment I'm having is based on links to someone who never managed before and a has been.
SingmeasongSong
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Yeah he won the CL title with a lot of luck with a squad that should have won it anyways. The sides they had to face around that time to the final have been nothing but a joke, yet they still almost crashed out against Wolfsburg, if it wasnt for Ronaldo to safe them as the last minute. Again, they should have been knocked out by City which have been piss poor at that time. The final against Atletico has been a lucky one again, so I dont account that CL title as too much of an achievement especially, if you look at how good that squad actually is now. It did not really take much but a new coach to show that this current crop of players at Madrid has been, especially in midfield and defence, a level above any other side in the game.
As for his BL titles - hell no ! Not winning the Bundesliga would be shocking to say the least. I live in Munich and can only say the gap between first and second becomes bigger and bigger by the years.
Bayern has been the best side in the years after the treble with Heynkes under Pep as well but winning the CL is not always won by the best team but the most fortunate one.
Then Ancelotti came in and Bayern totally lost any style of play. He just led them do whatever they wanted on the field. That might be enough in the BL as Bayern is loaded with worldclass players but made them drop by more than one level
rich 1990
Not A Big Believer In Diversity
If it was Ancelloti, his eyebrow would never come down after watching Mustafi.
LG10
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Why the **** would I be familiar with that?
LG10
Well-Known Member
You seriously think getting to the EL semi finals was an accomplishment? If we knocked out Atletico sure, but we didn't. Player quality is what got us to the semis, our tactical deficiencies were on full display. We got battered by that Swedish team at home ffs. Beating a vastly overhyped Milan side and a terrible cska are nothing to write home about.We reached a semi final „without a coach“ this year
Next year with Aubameyang, we could easily reach the semifinals again, only someone like Ancelotti would make us go all the way through once we were there.
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