Mikel Arteta: Fighting Until The End

[Riou]

Your team wins it's first Champions League match since the 2016/2017 season playing excellent football, and you start talking about how Runarsson was rejected by the club.

Yeah, definitely no hidden agenda there

 

[Macho]

So we not allowed to discuss what it took to get to the pinnacle of football, facing former Europa co-inhabitants PSV?

Arteta spent a f*ck ton of money and it took a while to figure it out.

That’s not an agenda that’s just plain facts ladies.

 

[Riou]

Arteta doing well as our manager, but also doing it by annoying a lot of our fans too.

Don't know which one I love him for more, what a guy!

 

[Macho]

Arteta doing well as our manager, but also doing it by annoying a lot of our fans too.

Don't know which one I love him for more, what a guy!

The only annoyance I see was in some of you when Trax reminded everybody Arteta’s goalkeeper churn

 

[drippin]

The transfer business is a lottery

Hasn't been a lottery for Arteta & Edu though. Lottery has a quite small possibility to win, and they have got most of their transfers right, especially the bigger the money spent on a player.

It's a lottery for Ten Hairs for example, as most of his buys go wrong. Or maybe like for Chelsea.

Weird isn't it? Money alone isn't enough for success.

 

[HattoriHanzo]

Raya was first choice 2-3 years ago, but he was unavailable then.
This summer he became available, this is all that should be said regarding GK situation.

 

[drippin]

The only annoyance I see was in some of you when Trax reminded everybody Arteta’s goalkeeper churn

There's no problem in reminding about it. It has gone very well!

And I have explained it before, but there isn't actually that much money lost in upgrading that department compared to other top clubs, if you look at the ages, level and HG status of the current keepers.

And if Ramsdale is sold for a nice profit, while buying another good level ball-playing keeper for cheaper, it's actually top top business at that point.

 

[Hunta]

He got his subs spot on last night, first time ever I think.

Needs to give Kiwior more minutes at LB though, we all know Zinchenko is getting injured shortly.

 

[CaseUteinberger]

And or the club is sending a lot of money on good players.

We all agree it is bit of both. But even you have to agree that the fact that the board is willing to spend on the squad is, at least partly, to Arteta and Edu's credit. You might not give Arteta as much credit as I do for example, but think we at least somewhat agree here.

 

[El Duderino]

He got his subs spot on last night, first time ever I think.

Needs to give Kiwior more minutes at LB though, we all know Zinchenko is getting injured shortly.

Think being that far ahead performance and scoring wise made it easier, but it was refreshing to see.

Hopefully it teaches the team to put opponents to the sword, the whole being a goal up and subbing Ødegaard to try and hold a lead is not the best strategy.

 

[Xln]

Arteta is most certainly a cheque book manager, he’s getting through players like Boris Johnson gets through women. But it’s the way to success my friend. The transfer business is a lottery and if you can swap out unsuccessful ones fairly quickly it’s a lot easier than spending years trying to mould them to your way of playing.

But that's exactly the thing, by moulding players you won't win feck all so why are you even bringing all of this up

 

[Hunta]

Think being that far ahead performance and scoring wise made it easier, but it was refreshing to see.

Hopefully it teaches the team to put opponents to the sword, the whole being a goal up and subbing Ødegaard to try and hold a lead is not the best strategy.

He’ll have to rotate the defence a lot. Needs to pick and choose when Tomiyasu and Kiwior start games. Cedric will probably have to start the Brentford game.

 

[Camron]

Watching Ødegaard last night, he really is a gem of a buy. But sadly, many football buys don’t work out, so the way to success is to keep rejecting and buying until the squad is exactly what you need. Just look at GK position:
Martinez, rejected
Leno, rejected
Runarsson, rejected
Ramsdale, rejected
Raya
This is the sort of turnover you need to get a team competing at the very top. And it’s similar in other positions since the 4 years Arteta’s been here. 3 or 4 changes in many positions. Keep, sell, sell, methodolgy. It’s so much easier than having to work with players to try and get them to do what you want, like most managers have to.

 

[El Duderino]

He’ll have to rotate the defence a lot. Needs to pick and choose when Tomiyasu and Kiwior start games. Cedric will probably have to start the Brentford game.

Please be wrong.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

So we not allowed to discuss what it took to get to the pinnacle of football, facing former Europa co-inhabitants PSV?

Arteta spent a f*ck ton of money and it took a while to figure it out.

That’s not an agenda that’s just plain facts ladies.

We should talk more about this tbh. Specially with all the hate Arteta gets.

Lack of investment in squad quality, positionally and tactically had been obvious for decade and we had fall very far behind other teams.

Credit to Arteta to at least getting us back into the picture as a relevant team with the job he has done as manager.

 

[Macho]

Investment in squad quality, positionally and tactically had been obvious for decade and we had fall very far behind other teams.

Watching Ødegaard last night, he really is a gem of a buy. But sadly, many football buys don’t work out, so the way to success is to keep rejecting and buying until the squad is exactly what you need.
This is the sort of turnover you need to get a team competing at the very top.

So you all basically agree and just didn’t like the messenger then?

 

[MauveGunner]

Dumbest buy in history of transfer market

Look at Yanites transfer business buddy. That's a lot worse.

 

[drippin]

So you all basically agree but just didn’t like the messenger then?

Umm, that's the first time Hydro replied here after Makingtrax comment?

He didn't disagree with his post earlier?

My points are pretty clear in respect to what Makingtrax has said.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

So you all basically agree and just didn’t like the messenger then?

Well its not me who has been attcking Arteta and downplaying him for last few years.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

I don’t get people who have an issue with player turnover, if they’re not good enough then they should be dropped and replaced.

Not sure why you’d want to go back to the days of sticking with players that are obviously not good enough for too long.