Iloveyouarsenewenger
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qs said:I hate when people say "its an area we can improve on" so it passing, doesn't mean we're bad at it.
It is just a more polite way of saying - we're bad at it. Shouldn't be taken literally.
qs said:I hate when people say "its an area we can improve on" so it passing, doesn't mean we're bad at it.
otfgoon said:Theoretically you could win 36 league games and draw 2 and you'd still be relying on your rival to slip up.
It's a blunt point.
And isnt this thread pretty much exactly the same as the 10 game thread except with a 'fun' school based theme?
qs said:Get me stats for the season and compare them to all other sides.
Iloveyouarsenewenger said:qs said:redanddread said:1. We are still really vulnerable at set pieces-particulalry corners.
I really don't think thats true.
Three out of the last four goals we have conceded have come from set pieces. Shakhtar equalizer, Newcastle goal and Everton goal.
yuvken said:I agree with otf there's really nothing special about 10 or 12 games. You'd have a point if we didn't have a 10 match thread, but we did (and it's a bit more sensible: you don't want to draw too many lines before you are really in the season, and several people said, in line with common thought, that "we'll see after 10 games". Beyond that - why is it more than "the race to the title" which is very general and invites the immediate, and the deeper, thoughts related to our team, chances, etc. It also let's you make assessments after real key points, like utd/chls games, etc).
Having said all that, and "just playing", where we are is still at the beginning. We know our new players are good, and came in spots needed strengthening. Key point (and at this time key plus) - our GK position seems much improved. If this trend lasts we may be solid chmp material (which you simply are not without a real keeper).
Also some players are better than we thought (august): Jack, Samir, DJ, Theo (and Flappy as mentioned).
A more contestable point, but one I have a view on, is our general defending awareness. Without going into detail here, it seems our team has taken that as a different priority.
How it materializes has independent points, good and bad. I think on the whole I'm encouraged, but certainly not just positives (where has song gone? is that where he should have gone, and will go? whichever way, the mid cover is many times missing).
On the entirely negative side are some performances that can not be explained, and are not rare at all. Yet to be convinced this team is really going to give everything and will not accept defeat (in title race). Yet to understand why this is so.
mo50 said:There's no point talking about if's though, is there? Had we beaten the 2 newly promoted teams, and not let that goal in against Sunderland, we'd have been top of the league quite comfortably.
Anzac said:mo50 said:There's no point talking about if's though, is there? Had we beaten the 2 newly promoted teams, and not let that goal in against Sunderland, we'd have been top of the league quite comfortably.
Point being those losses were at Home & indicate that we are still plagued by the same issues of inconsistancy since 07/08.
As I said earlier IMO it is as much that CFC & ManU are coming back towards our level, as opposed to any substantial improvement/raising our game by us.
mo50 said:Anzac said:Point being those losses were at Home & indicate that we are still plagued by the same issues of inconsistancy since 07/08.
As I said earlier IMO it is as much that CFC & ManU are coming back towards our level, as opposed to any substantial improvement/raising our game by us.
Sunderland absolutely outclassed Chelsea at the Bridge. We're the only challenger that has successfully taken 3 points off Man. City at COMS. United drew against Everton, a team we beat quite comfortably on Sunday.
If anything, recent results have shown we're the team picking it up a notch, not vice versa.
Regarding the inconsistencies part, we were brilliant at home last season. What's to say we won't improve and reach that level of consistency once again? I think your doing us a major disservice, Anzac.
Anzac said:mo50 said:Anzac said:Point being those losses were at Home & indicate that we are still plagued by the same issues of inconsistancy since 07/08.
As I said earlier IMO it is as much that CFC & ManU are coming back towards our level, as opposed to any substantial improvement/raising our game by us.
Sunderland absolutely outclassed Chelsea at the Bridge. We're the only challenger that has successfully taken 3 points off Man. City at COMS. United drew against Everton, a team we beat quite comfortably on Sunday.
If anything, recent results have shown we're the team picking it up a notch, not vice versa.
Regarding the inconsistencies part, we were brilliant at home last season. What's to say we won't improve and reach that level of consistency once again? I think your doing us a major disservice, Anzac.
Our performance at City was helped by the fact they were a man down inside 10 minutes, and it took Mancini the rest of the half to sort the team out. Our recent seasons have shown a see-saw effect re Home v Away form - we have been unable to achieve any balance.
As I said earlier IMO we're still not as good as we were this stage in 07/08 or last season, and I've seen nothing to indicate we'll reach those levels let alone surpass them. We may be in the mix but without surpassing those earlier seasons (with much the same core) then IMO we are still relying upon the market coming back to us as opposed to us re-establishing our power as yet.
mo50 said:Fair enough. I still don't think we've hit top gear this season, and our performances at home will improve with time. We won't need to be as good as we were in 07/08, we'll need to be better than United/Chelsea to win it.