Discussion in 'Football Talk' started by clockwork orange, Sep 13, 2015.
Seems a fair fight, but I think you can take 'em.
At least you're being honest I guess. You're in no means a special snowflake though, Real take pretty much everyone they want from every club in the world not named Barcelona.
TBH all of those sales are pretty logical.
Heinze was ****, RVN was like 30 at the time and you got a good fee for him, Beckham was never that good of a player, could argue that you could have gotten more for him from perspective of his marketability and you received a, at the time, world record fee for Ronaldo.
BS he was like Cesc, their assist machine, and they dropped off competing for a few years after he left.
Lol assist machine? Revisionism at its best.
Never have I seen a player who gets by purely on his name.
He and Fabregas have had almost the exact same time in the EPL, Fabregas has had 8 full seasons and is going into his 9th whilst Beckham had 8 full seasons where he actually played, and guess what? Fabregas has close to double the assists of Beckham.
Beckham could only dream of being half the player Fabregas was or is.
The stats are hard to come by but Beckham got 152 assists off
394 games for United, yes he was an assist machine.
The only revisionism is that he wasn't a top player and Scholes was better, Beckham was their killer ball man when they played together. Arguably their best player when he was there
I go my stats from here, http://www.statbunker.com/alltimestats/AllTimeCompetitionMostAssists?comp_code=EPL , indicated that he got 44 assists in his time here
85 goals 152 Assists in 394.
On top of that, provided endless stamina and defensive work rate, covered 15km a game and even if he wasn't the prime assister he was always assisting the assister.
Que 99 Champions League winning goal.
Not a bad C.V for us either.
Premier League 1995/96, 1996/97, 1998/99, 1999/00, 2000/01, 2002/03
Champions League 1998/99
FA Cup 1995/96, 1998/99
Community Shield 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997
Intercontinental Cup 1999
Beckham is legend.
Got my stats from here http://www.statbunker.com/alltimestats/AllTimeCompetitionMostAssists?comp_code=EPL
Still don't rate him.
Some very surprising players on there, Milner being especially high.
Hate how assist stats are done in football, so misleading. You can thread the ball through 4 defenders into the running path of a winger, but his following 5 yard square pass to the open striker is the assist. Original pass gets nothing.
It's close to being a worthless stat as it's so dependent on team setup as well. Key passes is much better, although it's a much more subjective stat to an extent.
^ Messi did nothing there if you only care about goals and assists, yet he literally created the goal.
It's why I hate when people rely on statistics in football.
This argument reminds me of Hleb, King of pre-assist
The only difference between a key pass and an assist is 1 is coverted the other isn't. You could produce 100 side ways passes to 100 30 yard shots and have the highest number of key passes in the PL.
Any stat needs context, even goals. What if a player has 20 league goals, but 10 are penalties and the rest are all counter attacking tap ins against Sunderland, Bournemouth and Norwich when the team were already 2 up.
They don't have much of the stats for most the 90s on that site. That's why no 90s players are on there. Bergkamp is listed as 49 assists but he has 116. There's a video with 140 something of Beckham's United assists on youtube if you want to find it.
I doubt you watched him much in his pomp, maybe before your time
I agree! Thats the reason we have our analysis system (statDNA) we dont rely on the stats that get posted on here, we look at every single touch, not just assists and goals scored. It gives a far more accurate profile of a player.
Manchester City 2-1 Norwich
BBC Sport at Etihad Stadium
After 80 minutes of not a lot, the last 10 minutes at Etihad Stadium were probably best described as completely crazy. The Manchester City fans in front of me were going ballistic as their team failed to clear time and time again from Norwich's 10 men and they were hanging on for dear life in stoppage time - it is safe to say that was not in the pre-match script for the Premier League leaders. Don't let Aleksandar Kolarov's penalty miss for the home side at the death fool you - a 3-1 defeat would have been incredibly harsh on the Canaries. They have left empty-handed but enormous credit to Alex Neil's side, who defended brilliantly and showed plenty of attacking spirit too.
Beckham's a marmite guy-thing is he probably owns Marmite. People could argue about his merits all day long. Beckham's a corporation.
Apparently Nasri couldn't take your brilliant put down and changed his hair colour again
or he's stressed about going to jail like some of his France teammates.
Looks to me like he's getting ready for it.
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